Title: Dolphins agree to deal with Jake Long
RobSalvador - April 22, 2008 05:28 PM (GMT)
Sources: Dolphins agree to deal with Long, will select OT No. 1 overall
ESPN.com news services
Updated: April 22, 2008, 1:10 PM ET
McShay Scouting Report: Jake Long
The Miami Dolphins have reached a contract agreement with Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long and will select him with the No. 1 overall pick in Saturday's draft, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.
The announcement will come at a 1:45 p.m. ET news conference.
Despite speculation that Dolphins vice president of football operations Bill Parcells really had planned to select Ohio State defensive end Vernon Gholston or Virginia defensive end Chris Long, sources told ESPN's Michael Smith that since the Dolphins opened negotiations with Jake Long they were talking to him exclusively.
Long, a 6-foot-7, 313-pound senior who moved to left tackle in 2006 and started his final 26 games, was an All-America selection and Big Ten lineman of the year in each of his last two seasons.
Offensive line is considered the biggest need for the Dolphins, who went 1-15 last year.
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eplayerj - April 22, 2008 05:33 PM (GMT)
DAMN!!!!!! F@#KED BY PARCELLS AGAIN!!!! 6g65dd 6g65dd 6g65dd
Steve_Bartkowski - April 22, 2008 05:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (RobSalvador @ Apr 22 2008, 11:28 AM) |
Sources: Dolphins agree to deal with Long, will select OT No. 1 overall
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eplayerj - April 22, 2008 05:34 PM (GMT)
Glen Dorsey is my dude!!! lets go Dorsey. 8DRTV75
Steve_Bartkowski - April 22, 2008 05:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eplayerj @ Apr 22 2008, 11:34 AM) |
| Glen Dorsey is my dude!!! lets go Dorsey. 8DRTV75 |
Yep...Dorsey! If the Rams take Dorsey then trade down!
Clownorg - April 22, 2008 05:36 PM (GMT)
Dorsey!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll break my fuckin TV if we take Ryan at #3
Steve_Bartkowski - April 22, 2008 05:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Clownorg @ Apr 22 2008, 11:36 AM) |
Dorsey!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll break my fuckin TV if we take Ryan at #3 |
:stupid:
eplayerj - April 22, 2008 05:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Clownorg @ Apr 22 2008, 11:36 AM) |
Dorsey!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll break my fuckin TV if we take Ryan at #3 |
I feel the same freaking way.
RobSalvador - April 22, 2008 05:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 11:35 AM) |
| QUOTE (eplayerj @ Apr 22 2008, 11:34 AM) | | Glen Dorsey is my dude!!! lets go Dorsey. 8DRTV75 |
Yep...Dorsey! If the Rams take Dorsey then trade down!
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If anyone would give us decent value.
BTW, why is Dorsey that much better than Ellis? Ellis is stronger, faster, taller per workouts and not injury. Explain.
Clownorg - April 22, 2008 05:44 PM (GMT)
I have absolutley No issue trading down and Taking Eliis & some extra Picks.
I think the Dorsey Love is more his Off the feild, charitable type guy tha FO is falling for.
BrockSamson3000 - April 22, 2008 06:27 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (eplayerj @ Apr 22 2008, 12:38 PM) |
| QUOTE (Clownorg @ Apr 22 2008, 11:36 AM) | Dorsey!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll break my fuckin TV if we take Ryan at #3 |
I feel the same freaking way.
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Freak yeah!
:angry:
falconfoozball - April 22, 2008 06:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (RobSalvador @ Apr 22 2008, 11:42 AM) |
| QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 11:35 AM) | | QUOTE (eplayerj @ Apr 22 2008, 11:34 AM) | | Glen Dorsey is my dude!!! lets go Dorsey. 8DRTV75 |
Yep...Dorsey! If the Rams take Dorsey then trade down!
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If anyone would give us decent value.
BTW, why is Dorsey that much better than Ellis? Ellis is stronger, faster, taller per workouts and not injury. Explain.
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Man, I'll be happy w/either one. Ellis or Dorsey. I got to see Dorsey play a little more often this year, but Ellis was a flat out monster in the Sr. Bowl. I don't know that I agree w/trading down though, unless we're somehow sure if Dorsey is gone, that we would still be able to get Ellis. Now, I know that sounds like I'm saying he's worth the 3rd pick. I don't necessarily agree w/that, but I don't want to break my TV either.
Flight58 - April 22, 2008 07:15 PM (GMT)
Sucks to be Jake Long. I hope he gets a lot of money. Dolphins aren't going anywhere.
falconfoozball - April 22, 2008 07:20 PM (GMT)
If we don't get Jake Long or Dorsey, what about Chris Long? I think he's going to be a helluva player for some lucky team. I'd be happy w/him or Ellis if J. Long & Dorsey are somehow both off the board.
BlackTalon - April 22, 2008 07:29 PM (GMT)
Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :)
Steve_Bartkowski - April 22, 2008 07:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:29 PM) |
Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :) |
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Flight58 - April 22, 2008 07:32 PM (GMT)
Football fans trip me out near draft time.
Me, I don't give a shit who we get until we got them.
BlackTalon - April 22, 2008 07:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (falconfoozball @ Apr 22 2008, 03:20 PM) |
| If we don't get Jake Long or Dorsey, what about Chris Long? I think he's going to be a helluva player for some lucky team. I'd be happy w/him or Ellis if J. Long & Dorsey are somehow both off the board. |
Ellis maybe..no Long
BlackTalon - April 22, 2008 07:34 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) |
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:29 PM) | Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :) |
8955
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Get over it SB.
That is the deal
Steve_Bartkowski - April 22, 2008 07:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:34 PM) |
| QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:29 PM) | Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :) |
8955
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Get over it SB.
That is the deal
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You better be wrong!
falconfoozball - April 22, 2008 07:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:33 PM) |
| QUOTE (falconfoozball @ Apr 22 2008, 03:20 PM) | | If we don't get Jake Long or Dorsey, what about Chris Long? I think he's going to be a helluva player for some lucky team. I'd be happy w/him or Ellis if J. Long & Dorsey are somehow both off the board. |
Ellis maybe..no Long
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Why not C Long?
And btw, I am not going to REALLY break my TV if they pick Ryan. It is a position of need, and I trust Dimi/Smith to know better what they need than me. I think he'll end up doing well in the NFL if he gets the right coaches & the right opportunities. May take a while, but I'll live w/it.
I'd rather see us pick up Brohm or Flacco in later rounds. But that's just me.
BlackTalon - April 22, 2008 07:49 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:35 PM) |
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:34 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:29 PM) | Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :) |
8955
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Get over it SB.
That is the deal
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You better be wrong!
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SB, not bragging but I`m seldom wrong about the Falcons.
6`5`` in cleats
Intellegent
Athletic
Makes all the throws
Makes plays on the run
Outstanding work ethic
There are your 6 reasons to take a guy like Ryan, while we can. :)
Steve_Bartkowski - April 22, 2008 07:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:49 PM) |
| QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:35 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:34 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:29 PM) | Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :) |
8955
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Get over it SB.
That is the deal
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You better be wrong!
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SB, not bragging but I`m seldom wrong about the Falcons.
6`5`` in cleats
Intellegent
Athletic
Makes all the throws
Makes plays on the run
Outstanding work ethic
There are your 6 reasons to take a guy like Ryan, while we can. :)
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Ya and a ton of interceptions. The guy is Joey Harrington Jr.
falconfoozball - April 22, 2008 07:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 01:50 PM) |
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:35 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:34 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:29 PM) | Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :) |
8955
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Get over it SB.
That is the deal
|
You better be wrong!
|
SB, not bragging but I`m seldom wrong about the Falcons.
6`5`` in cleats
Intellegent
Athletic
Makes all the throws
Makes plays on the run
Outstanding work ethic
There are your 6 reasons to take a guy like Ryan, while we can. :)
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Ya and a ton of interceptions. The guy is Joey Harrington Jr.
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Even the best ones get picked a lot early on, though. Didn't Favre kinda start out that way? (not that I'm in any way, shape, or form comparing the 2)
BlackTalon - April 22, 2008 07:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (falconfoozball @ Apr 22 2008, 03:46 PM) |
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:33 PM) | | QUOTE (falconfoozball @ Apr 22 2008, 03:20 PM) | | If we don't get Jake Long or Dorsey, what about Chris Long? I think he's going to be a helluva player for some lucky team. I'd be happy w/him or Ellis if J. Long & Dorsey are somehow both off the board. |
Ellis maybe..no Long
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Why not C Long?
And btw, I am not going to REALLY break my TV if they pick Ryan. It is a position of need, and I trust Dimi/Smith to know better what they need than me. I think he'll end up doing well in the NFL if he gets the right coaches & the right opportunities. May take a while, but I'll live w/it.
I'd rather see us pick up Brohm or Flacco in later rounds. But that's just me.
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Chis Long will be a good player.
Sorta like Pat Kerney..not great.
falconfoozball - April 22, 2008 07:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:54 PM) |
| QUOTE (falconfoozball @ Apr 22 2008, 03:46 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:33 PM) | | QUOTE (falconfoozball @ Apr 22 2008, 03:20 PM) | | If we don't get Jake Long or Dorsey, what about Chris Long? I think he's going to be a helluva player for some lucky team. I'd be happy w/him or Ellis if J. Long & Dorsey are somehow both off the board. |
Ellis maybe..no Long
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Why not C Long?
And btw, I am not going to REALLY break my TV if they pick Ryan. It is a position of need, and I trust Dimi/Smith to know better what they need than me. I think he'll end up doing well in the NFL if he gets the right coaches & the right opportunities. May take a while, but I'll live w/it.
I'd rather see us pick up Brohm or Flacco in later rounds. But that's just me.
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Chis Long will be a good player.
Sorta like Pat Kerney..not great.
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Yeah, that kinda explains my mancrush, then. Kerney was probably one of my top 3 fave Falcons.
BlackTalon - April 22, 2008 07:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (falconfoozball @ Apr 22 2008, 03:54 PM) |
| QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 01:50 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:35 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:34 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:29 PM) | Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :) |
8955
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Get over it SB.
That is the deal
|
You better be wrong!
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SB, not bragging but I`m seldom wrong about the Falcons.
6`5`` in cleats
Intellegent
Athletic
Makes all the throws
Makes plays on the run
Outstanding work ethic
There are your 6 reasons to take a guy like Ryan, while we can. :)
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Ya and a ton of interceptions. The guy is Joey Harrington Jr.
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Even the best ones get picked a lot early on, though. Didn't Favre kinda start out that way? (not that I'm in any way, shape, or form comparing the 2)
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Ryan had crap for a supporting cast.
He was trying to make plays with what he had.
falconfoozball - April 22, 2008 08:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:57 PM) |
| QUOTE (falconfoozball @ Apr 22 2008, 03:54 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 01:50 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:49 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:35 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:34 PM) | | QUOTE (Steve_Bartkowski @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) | | QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:29 PM) | Good for Jake..he`s #1
Dorsey is very likely a Ram.
Some might as well get over it.
Matt Ryan (as I have been saying) likely a Falcon.
Learn it, accept it, might as well find a way to like it. :) |
8955
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Get over it SB.
That is the deal
|
You better be wrong!
|
SB, not bragging but I`m seldom wrong about the Falcons.
6`5`` in cleats
Intellegent
Athletic
Makes all the throws
Makes plays on the run
Outstanding work ethic
There are your 6 reasons to take a guy like Ryan, while we can. :)
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Ya and a ton of interceptions. The guy is Joey Harrington Jr.
|
Even the best ones get picked a lot early on, though. Didn't Favre kinda start out that way? (not that I'm in any way, shape, or form comparing the 2)
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Ryan had crap for a supporting cast.
He was trying to make plays with what he had.
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Mr. Mayock??? Is that you??? :huh:
:lol:
JDB7821 - April 22, 2008 09:03 PM (GMT)
Honestly, at this point I'd rather trade down even if Dorsey is on the board. There's hardly any difference, in my opinion, between Dorsey and Ellis. If we move down, we get more compensation, an equal talent, and less of an injury risk. No brainer in my opinion.
Of course, then you say, what if both are gone? Then Albert, McKelvin, Clady, or Williams.
RobSalvador - April 22, 2008 09:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JDB7821 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:03 PM) |
Honestly, at this point I'd rather trade down even if Dorsey is on the board. There's hardly any difference, in my opinion, between Dorsey and Ellis. If we move down, we get more compensation, an equal talent, and less of an injury risk. No brainer in my opinion.
Of course, then you say, what if both are gone? Then Albert, McKelvin, Clady, or Williams. |
Agreed, Ellis would be nice.
metterfalcon - April 22, 2008 10:27 PM (GMT)
gotta believe dorsey is a ram now. i havn't thought about trading down and trying to get ellis but i like it a hell of lot better than picking ryan at #3.
BlackTalon - April 22, 2008 11:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (metterfalcon @ Apr 22 2008, 06:27 PM) |
| gotta believe dorsey is a ram now. i havn't thought about trading down and trying to get ellis but i like it a hell of lot better than picking ryan at #3. |
I agree, Dorsey is likely a Ram.
However, this is not Fantasy football where your top 2 guys are gone and you`r sitting at number 3 and say ''Lets trade down 6 slots and get the guy that is 2nd best at one of those positions.''
The talent is so close and deep in this draft that it makes trading down from our slot difficult.
Nobody is going to want to give much to trade up into our position.
So, IMO the best strategy is to go ahead a select the best QB in the draft (Matt Ryan) and then trade back up into lower to mid 1st round using our leverage with the multiple 2nd a 3rd rounders to land a top shelf O-lineman if we trade at all?
That way we wind up with two 1st round picks filling areas of dire need with blue chip talent and still have picks in the 2nd and 3rd to find more players that can possibly contribute.
Flight58 - April 22, 2008 11:35 PM (GMT)
Jake Long's deal is 5 year 57 million, 30 million garanteed
BlackTalon - April 22, 2008 11:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Flight58 @ Apr 22 2008, 07:35 PM) |
| Jake Long's deal is 5 year 57 million, 30 million garanteed |
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RobSalvador - April 22, 2008 11:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 05:05 PM) |
| QUOTE (metterfalcon @ Apr 22 2008, 06:27 PM) | | gotta believe dorsey is a ram now. i havn't thought about trading down and trying to get ellis but i like it a hell of lot better than picking ryan at #3. |
I agree, Dorsey is likely a Ram.
However, this is not Fantasy football where your top 2 guys are gone and you`r sitting at number 3 and say ''Lets trade down 6 slots and get the guy that is 2nd best at one of those positions.''
The talent is so close and deep in this draft that it makes trading down from our slot difficult.
Nobody is going to want to give much to trade up into our position.
So, IMO the best strategy is to go ahead a select the best QB in the draft (Matt Ryan) and then trade back up into lower to mid 1st round using our leverage with the multiple 2nd a 3rd rounders to land a top shelf O-lineman if we trade at all?
That way we wind up with two 1st round picks filling areas of dire need with blue chip talent and still have picks in the 2nd and 3rd to find more players that can possibly contribute.
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That sounds expensive.
BlackTalon - April 23, 2008 12:07 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (RobSalvador @ Apr 22 2008, 07:44 PM) |
| QUOTE (BlackTalon @ Apr 22 2008, 05:05 PM) | | QUOTE (metterfalcon @ Apr 22 2008, 06:27 PM) | | gotta believe dorsey is a ram now. i havn't thought about trading down and trying to get ellis but i like it a hell of lot better than picking ryan at #3. |
I agree, Dorsey is likely a Ram.
However, this is not Fantasy football where your top 2 guys are gone and you`r sitting at number 3 and say ''Lets trade down 6 slots and get the guy that is 2nd best at one of those positions.''
The talent is so close and deep in this draft that it makes trading down from our slot difficult.
Nobody is going to want to give much to trade up into our position.
So, IMO the best strategy is to go ahead a select the best QB in the draft (Matt Ryan) and then trade back up into lower to mid 1st round using our leverage with the multiple 2nd a 3rd rounders to land a top shelf O-lineman if we trade at all?
That way we wind up with two 1st round picks filling areas of dire need with blue chip talent and still have picks in the 2nd and 3rd to find more players that can possibly contribute.
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That sounds expensive.
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I`m not saying give up the farm to move back up into the 1st.
Just offer up a 2nd and a 3rd to move up 10 to 15 slots.
Me thinking is, all the best O-linemen will be gone by the end of the 1st round, as many as 6 or 7 will be taken in the 1st.
I want one that`s going to be in the starting line up in September and have used our strong draft position to have secured our future QB.
This is not going to be a one draft fix and many have seriously understimated how dire we are in need at the QB position.
sprintfan11 - April 23, 2008 12:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Clownorg @ Apr 22 2008, 11:36 AM) |
Dorsey!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll break my fuckin TV if we take Ryan at #3 |
That sums it up for me....
Flight58 - April 23, 2008 12:54 PM (GMT)
Don't take it out on the tvs guys. They're innocent. Try slapping your wife. I'm sure she'll understand your frustrations.