The Falcons need to quit being sorry. When they suck I lack interest in football and lost interest in football = lost interest in the Falcons.

Can you explain what you mean by the Falcons being sorry?

Not sure what he's talking about, but I agree that the Falcons need to stop being sorry...and for me "SORRY" means=

Drafting shitty talent, signing overrated "talent", hiring terrible FO personnel, hiring HCs who are in well over their heads, and first and foremost, stop making up fuckin' excuses season in and season out for our piss poor play, and just come out and admit that they fucked up. That from the tip top of the organization all the way down to the towel boy, they screwed the pooch... 8DRTV75

It all starts with admitting your mistakes and taking accountability for them. I'm still waiting on that from some in this organization. Stop trying to find the scapegoat. Just step up, made the admission, and move on to trying to correct it.

This "Blame Game" that we see the team play year in and year out is gettin' old. Look, I'm pissed at Vick to some degree too, but to hang our woes on him for the last 5 years is just plain fuckin' denial. To blame Mora is simply trying to shrug off the responsiblity of admitting the truth.

It's time for this organization to get their shit together. I'm not aiming a thing at anyone or anything with the current FO or players signed, because to be fair, it's much too early to determine who's right and who's wrong. Everyone here knows where I stand on varioius personnel decisions this offseason, but I'm withholding final judgement until we actually see these guys on the field. In some cases, we'll have to wait until NEXT year and even the year after that, to find out who truly pans out, and who needs to get drop kicked... 8DRTV75

The truly talented and proven FO personnel wouldnt want to come to this godforsaken place, so we get whats left over. Who's to blame, hell itd be easier to say who didnt make any mistakes. Can TD turn it around, maybe. I think hes made a good start by clearing the lockerroom of any malcontents. But we will have to see what Smith can do.

PS: Mora was cancer #1.

That`s fair enough as a long time true Falcon fan you certainly have every right to be sceptical and even critical but I don`t see you as a guy who would just lose interest in the team or for football in general.
Myself, I love the game of football and the Falcons are my favorite team.

Take the 2nd half of last season, it got pretty tough being a Falcons fan but instead of quitting and giving up in disgust, I still watched the Falcons but I switched interest to other NFL teams on a temporary basis.
That must be a built in defence mechanism from being a long time Falcons fan and not wanting to worry about shit I have no control over.

I think, SoCal Falcon put it best..
Accepting what the Org. is doing and understand they are trying their best is a choise.
I accept the idea, that the Org. is in much better shape now than they were on Dec.13th 2007 (the day the pig quit) or at anytime leading up to that for the last several years.

It`s you choice to accept or reject.

Mora wasn't the problem...he was a big kid at times, and tended to say stupid things...like Father, Like Son in that regard, but he wasn't the problem. Knapp, Alex Gibbs, and Zonatell were the real problems. Sure he put that staff together, but it was his first time as a HC, and he assembled the guys he was familiar with, and comfortable with...no different than what any rookie HC does. Mora was scapegoat, because he was easy. His "blunders" and "gaffes" were very public...but they were also, ultimately harmless. What mattered was that he could coach, and that he had the trust of his team leaders. He was simply an easy mark.

Next season when he takes over the Seahawks, an organization that is far better than we are right now, then people will see he wasn't to blame for what happened in ATL. If he were, then when he was gone, we would've miraculously started playing better and winning. Oopss...If he were to blame, he wouldn't have been as in demand as he was immediately after he was gone...Miami interviewed him twice, and nearly hired him before settling on Cameron because Mora ultimately wanted to move back to the Pacific Northwest. The Redskins, among other teams, wouldn't have sought out Mora this past offseason if he were truly the problem in ATL, just 1 full year removed from his stint here.

Mora is an easy target...yet the problem in ATL continues still... 8DRTV75

What he said. Basically making crappy choices, Blank has a fucked-up mentality too. Tries to run things like a store, "customer's always right," falcons are a "product." That's junk. <pwned> Whiny fans got rid of Reeves and got Mora who they then whined him gone and got Petrino. </pwned>

I'll always root for the falcons but when the organization rarely seem to do more than talk, it's making it real easy not to tune in.

I'm just venting by8v68787
You've been vented upon.

How's it smell?

Mora allowed the Cancer in the locker room to grow and fester. Coddling players causes the coach to make decisions based on friends and feelings rather than winning. See Jason Webster and you know who. If somebody put a knot in his ass the first year, we wouldnt be going through this hell now.

Bra'...that's horseshit...EVERY coach coddles certain players. Even that fat bastard in Miami, Parcells. Certain players get away with certain things, while others are kept on tight leashes. It's simply a matter of who and for why. Some players need that tight leash. Others need to be allowed to go out and make their own mistakes. Fact is, Mora couldn't discipline some of the players on the team, because they were under the express protection of the owner. Webster wasn't the issue in the locker room...he was simply a guy that couldn't stay healthy. Fact is, he was our 2nd best CB when healthy. He wasn't coddled...he was just kept, because we didn't have another option. DeAngelo went to 2 pro bowls under Mora, and was never a "malcontent" until after Mora was gone. Some players need a heavy hand...some coaches know who those players are. It's ridiculous to expect a first time head coach, working for a green owner to know automatically who needs the extra attention, and who doesn't. Parcells, Bellichek, Dungy, and a slew of others, all made the same mistakes in their first jobs as HC...

I'm not exhonorating Mora from all of his mistakes. I'm just saying that his dismissal was a red herring. He wasn't the problem. He didn't perpetuate the "cancer" in the locker room. Whether or not he was ultimately the right coach for this team is something we'll never know. I'm of the mindset that if he were the HC here, last season, when the Vick fiasco hit, he would've figured out a way to rally the team to a better season. We would've still sucked, because that's what happens when the team's best player is suddenly sent to prison...but I think Mora could've kept a sense of continuity in place, helped to steady the ship...unlike that useless fuck who replaced him.

My question is what happens if the same things continue to happen now, with Dimitroff and Smith in place? Will they ultimately be the main problem too? Or will people finally look to the source... 8DRTV75

I agree, Mora himself was not the main problem.
The bigger problem was IMO the Falcons having a flawed roster.
Mora was only partially to blame for that, he shares that blame with his assistants, McKay and his staff and yes to a degree AB.
I think, Mora got his own ass fired over loyalty to certain members of his staff, a few stupid things he said and did.
How he handled players was one of his strong points.
Smitty will be much more like Mora in reguards to how he will handle players than the pig who quit and I expect he and his staff to run a more fundamently sound football program than Mora`s crew.

The FO appears much stronger now with Dimitroff as GM and McKay moved over into his role on the business side of the Org.

The bottom line about our owner...
Does he want to win?
Is he willing to spend the money?
Will he stay out of the way and let football people run the football program?

If the answer is yes to all 3?
He is everything we could ask for!

Blank doesn't care about winning as much as he cares about selling tix or making the customers happy and the stupid gameday experience.

Skip all that. You make the fans happy by winning. He only seems to say he wants to win so he can sell more tix.

Blank spends money and that alone makes him better than the smiths, for the franchise, but he illustrates that you don't solve problems by throwing money at them.

I remember that year Washington paid all that money and brought in Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders and et al.

It did nothing. They got nowhere. Money don't solve the problem.

Ha. If you can apologize for Mora's sorry azz, I can excuse Petrino.

Why was he brought in, to coach up Vick. Who lied to everyone until after the draft and fa, Vick. So what does Petrino inhert? A team loyal to a dog killer who wont play for 3 years and pissed at the organization for trying to distance itself from a criminal. What is the main question in all of Petrinos pressers for 8 month," wtf will happen to Vick".

He signed up to coach not be a defense attorney. How could he discipline all of the veteran players, impossible. It was like he interviewed for Vice President and was reassigned to mail room. Hell I quit after 8 weeks to.

SO who is to blame in this fucked up mess? Blank for coddling the POS and MORA for losing control.


Lets hope Seattle has a good supply of smelling salts.

I just hope we can win a game.
Should have seen it coming.