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Title: Your honest opinion on what should be done to
Description: Michael Boley!!!!!


eplayerj - May 6, 2008 01:25 PM (GMT)
Speak on it.....



I think he should be suspended for 4 games.

Alfred E. Neuman - May 6, 2008 01:35 PM (GMT)
Four games w/ no pay seems about right.

eplayerj - May 6, 2008 01:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alfred E. Neuman @ May 6 2008, 07:35 AM)
Four games w/ no pay seems about right.

Yeah this should be a lesson that he has to learn. You cannot condone this type of behavior.

Flight58 - May 6, 2008 01:56 PM (GMT)
Nothing. The bitch had it coming.

eplayerj - May 6, 2008 02:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Flight58 @ May 6 2008, 07:56 AM)
Nothing. The bitch had it coming.

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Flight58 - May 6, 2008 03:04 PM (GMT)
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RobSalvador - May 6, 2008 04:24 PM (GMT)
So has he admitted to hitting her or are the police talking?

eplayerj - May 6, 2008 04:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (RobSalvador @ May 6 2008, 10:24 AM)
So has he admitted to hitting her or are the police talking?

The PIO for Gwinnett Police said that he admitted to pushing her and putting her out of the house. That my friend is battery. We can save this dude. He can save himself.

RobSalvador - May 6, 2008 05:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (eplayerj @ May 6 2008, 10:56 AM)
QUOTE (RobSalvador @ May 6 2008, 10:24 AM)
So has he admitted to hitting her or are the police talking?

The PIO for Gwinnett Police said that he admitted to pushing her and putting her out of the house. That my friend is battery. We can save this dude. He can save himself.

A push is not quite battery. Now if he wailed on her thats one thing, but if he was just escorting her out of the house its quite another. How about lets wait before we suspend him.


an intent to do the act that ultimately results in contact is sufficient for the tort of battery, while a intent to inflict an injury on another is required for criminal battery.

In the United States, the common law requires the contact for battery be "harmful or offensive". The offensiveness is measured against a 'reasonable person' standard. Looking at a contact objectively, as a reasonable person would see it, would this contact be offensive?


He just needs a good lawyer(oxymoron) and no injuries or pics for this to go away. jDaveG know any good lawyers? :D

JDaveG - May 6, 2008 05:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (RobSalvador @ May 6 2008, 11:07 AM)
A push is not quite battery. Now if he wailed on her thats one thing, but if he was just escorting her out of the house its quite another. How about lets wait before we suspend him.


an intent to do the act that ultimately results in contact is sufficient for the tort of battery, while a intent to inflict an injury on another is required for criminal battery.

In the United States, the common law requires the contact for battery be "harmful or offensive". The offensiveness is measured against a 'reasonable person' standard. Looking at a contact objectively, as a reasonable person would see it, would this contact be offensive?

He just needs a good lawyer(oxymoron) and no injuries or pics for this to go away. jDaveG know any good lawyers? :D

Not for that, but my understanding was that he pushed her into something. That sounds like battery to me.

That doesn't mean she's a "battered wife," but it does indicate that he has some issues to sort out. Sounds like an argument that just got out of hand. Hopefully he learns from it.

eplayerj - May 6, 2008 05:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JDaveG @ May 6 2008, 11:21 AM)
QUOTE (RobSalvador @ May 6 2008, 11:07 AM)
A push is not quite battery.  Now if he wailed on her thats one thing, but if he was just escorting her out of the house its quite another.  How about lets wait before we suspend him.


an intent to do the act that ultimately results in contact is sufficient for the tort of battery, while a intent to inflict an injury on another is required for criminal battery.

In the United States, the common law requires the contact for battery be "harmful or offensive". The offensiveness is measured against a 'reasonable person' standard. Looking at a contact objectively, as a reasonable person would see it, would this contact be offensive?

He just needs a good lawyer(oxymoron) and no injuries or pics for  this to go away. jDaveG know any good lawyers? :D

Not for that, but my understanding was that he pushed her into something. That sounds like battery to me.

That doesn't mean she's a "battered wife," but it does indicate that he has some issues to sort out. Sounds like an argument that just got out of hand. Hopefully he learns from it.

Battery is unwanted touching. Putting his hands on her to force her out of the house is just that. He was arrested for battery. Bailed out on battery. It is a misdemeanor. A slap on the hand possibly probation or counseling. The extreme is assault. Right here if it had escalated it would have been just that.

BTW you know the league will get into this and do something.

keithbrooking56 - May 6, 2008 06:51 PM (GMT)
Hopefully he gets several games for this without pay. The sherriff we have as a commish will be coming down hard on a Falcon after Vick's debacle last year.

BirdWeisErrr - May 6, 2008 08:10 PM (GMT)
4 games is a lot, but warranted. From a player and team standpoint, it's another image hit. From a personal standpoint, it's totally uncalled for. If you look at my profile on the OMB you'll notice that Boley is listed as my favorite player. But as I see it the Falcons are my favorite team. What he does with his family outside of being under contract with the Falcons is his, and the law's, business. When he does it under contract with my favorite team, it's more embarrassment.

4 games and anger management. Hopefully he'll learn from this mistake.

Iowahorse - May 6, 2008 08:51 PM (GMT)
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BlackTalon - May 6, 2008 09:50 PM (GMT)
If I`m the Falcons? I do nothing.
We let the courts handle the issue and if Comish wants to impose some discipline?
Then we will have to follow league rules and guidelines.
No sense in imposing a harsher penalty on him or the team than is mandated by the league.
Face it, we are not going to win with team of choir boys.

falconfoozball - May 6, 2008 11:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (keithbrooking56 @ May 6 2008, 12:51 PM)
Hopefully he gets several games for this without pay. The sherriff we have as a commish will be coming down hard on a Falcon after Vick's debacle last year.

Well if he uses that for any kind of measurement of punishment, then I think the players union should go after his ass. Vick & Boley are two different people, and one problem doesn't have anything to do with the other. "The Falcons" didn't have a damn thing to do w/Vick getting in trouble, nor did they have anything to do w/what Boley's argument w/his wife turned into. That would be an unfair and unjust way to deal with him IMO.

And "several" games? I'm not trying to minimize what he did, but I think the other posters that have said 4 are dead on. Maybe even less depending on the fine, if there is one.

BlackTalon - May 7, 2008 12:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (falconfoozball @ May 6 2008, 07:10 PM)
QUOTE (keithbrooking56 @ May 6 2008, 12:51 PM)
Hopefully he gets several games for this without pay.  The sherriff we have as a commish will be coming down hard on a Falcon after Vick's debacle last year.

Well if he uses that for any kind of measurement of punishment, then I think the players union should go after his ass. Vick & Boley are two different people, and one problem doesn't have anything to do with the other. "The Falcons" didn't have a damn thing to do w/Vick getting in trouble, nor did they have anything to do w/what Boley's argument w/his wife turned into. That would be an unfair and unjust way to deal with him IMO.

And "several" games? I'm not trying to minimize what he did, but I think the other posters that have said 4 are dead on. Maybe even less depending on the fine, if there is one.

Fuck that four game suspension idea.
That`s BS.

Boley has a little scrape with his old lady and the Nanny State sends their goon squad out and they must make an arrest.
Big fucking deal.

Until any of you have been put into the position of having to defend yourself from woman has gone off the chain because she thinks you are having an affair?
You have no right to judge.

Let me tell you, I have been there.
Talk about someone that`s full of unreasonable rage in you`r face, that is hell bent on causing you financial, emotional and possibly phyiscal harm to you and you`r children.

I for one give Michael Boley the benifit of the doubt in his situation.
The rest of you can sit on you`r high horses having never been there and met out what you think is just having never been put in his shoes!

Iowahorse - May 7, 2008 12:42 AM (GMT)
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Until any of you have been put into the position of having to defend yourself from woman has gone off the chain because she thinks you are having an affair?
You have no right to judge.


You shut up. I've been there. Don't tell me what I can and can't think. I've been in the hospital with 3rd degree burns and stab wounds because I would not fight back. Don't you EVER presume to tell me what I can and can't think. About ANYTHING.

Flight58 - May 7, 2008 12:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Iowahorse @ May 6 2008, 02:51 PM)
user posted image

:D

Flight58 - May 7, 2008 12:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Iowahorse @ May 6 2008, 06:42 PM)
QUOTE
Until any of you have been put into the position of having to defend yourself from woman has gone off the chain because she thinks you are having an affair?
You have no right to judge.


You shut up. I've been there. Don't tell me what I can and can't think. I've been in the hospital with 3rd degree burns and stab wounds because I would not fight back. Don't you EVER presume to tell me what I can and can't think. About ANYTHING.

Deep fucking breath man!

Ty Down - May 7, 2008 01:00 AM (GMT)
I've had a women up in my face throwing shit at me and I got to say broken knuckles from a door and not her face was a stupid idea on my part. A fine line is crossed when some women gets crazy in the head and feels like she can do anything and not receive any kind of repercussion.

BlackTalon - May 7, 2008 01:19 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Iowahorse @ May 6 2008, 08:42 PM)
QUOTE
Until any of you have been put into the position of having to defend yourself from woman has gone off the chain because she thinks you are having an affair?
You have no right to judge.


You shut up. I've been there. Don't tell me what I can and can't think. I've been in the hospital with 3rd degree burns and stab wounds because I would not fight back. Don't you EVER presume to tell me what I can and can't think. About ANYTHING.

Fair enough, you have been there.
Then you know how tough it can be.

All I`m saying is Boley deserves the benefit of the doubt..IMO

BTW, Iowa
I missed where you said he should he should be suspended..so I was not addressing you.

falconfoozball - May 7, 2008 01:28 AM (GMT)
Seriously, BT. Maybe you should check the "Worst Arguments" thread in Chatterbox, and read a little before you start calling people "on their high horse." I would hazard a guess that most of us (at least the ones who have actually delved into a marriage or LTCR) have been in similar situations. And I'm not just talking about infidelity. It could be ANYTHING. And it goes both ways, male to female, and female to male.

Boley's going thru some shit right now - he's learning some hard lessons. I'm not trying to take food off the man's table, but when you make that much money, it's not really going to kill him or his family to sit out a few games. Humility is not a bad thing to learn, however the lessons come. Our ex-QB could have used some of it himself, before he fell so hard. This is an easy lesson for him if he decides to embrace it for what it is and accept the consequences. I'm not judging him. I've been there, too, especially this part:

"Talk about someone that`s full of unreasonable rage in you`r face, that is hell bent on causing you financial, emotional and possibly phyiscal harm to you and you`r children."

Save for the children part, which were her kids and she'd never do anything to hurt them physically, my ex had no qualms about their emotional well-being or having them see BS they didn't need to see. It's not about not "giving him the benefit of a doubt" at all. It's about expecting him to man-up if he did something wrong, learn his lesson, and move on. It's not my job to mete out his punishment, and I'm thankful for that. But if he gets resigned, gets his fat contract, he and his wife work things out (which I am hoping that they do) what is he really out missing a few games? Really?? The BOTH of them will have learned a valuable lesson, and if they are lucky... very lucky... it will make their marriage stronger. If not, then it probably wasn't meant to be anyway, and he can get on w/his life.

And btw, Iowa, fuck 3rd degree burns and stab wounds. I hope you pressed charges. That's BS between ANY 2 people.

FalconTamer - May 7, 2008 02:18 AM (GMT)
I'm new here but what the heck.....

I was raised to never hit a woman.

As an adult male it makes more sense now then when my mother taught me that.

You might "teach the bitch a lesson" or save your reputation or even save face....for the moment.

Once the police are brought in, you are toast....and thats for us regular guys.

Celebrities and athletes are under a microscope so not only does the whole world know about it but so do your fans and the commish.

So, you might win the battle by hitting, pushing or showing her whos boss but you lose the war when the arrest comes and the no contact order and the trial and so on.

As far as Boley goes. Im taking a wait and see position. Lets hear all sides of the story. From what I hear he is being charged with a misdemeanor which would probably equate to a fine and single game suspension with no pay by the league.

Although with Sherriff Goodell it could be much worse.

I hope both he and his wife get their shit together for the sake of their kids and neither let this happen again for everyones sake including Falcon fans.

Iowahorse - May 7, 2008 02:36 AM (GMT)
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nd btw, Iowa, fuck 3rd degree burns and stab wounds. I hope you pressed charges. That's BS between ANY 2 people.


Eh, she flipped out because I'd put in 14 hours that day and was too tired to take her and the kid to a double feature at the drive in and I had to be up at work again in 7 hours.. When I suggested we wait until the next night when I did not have to work the next day after she threw a stockpot of boiling water on me and started in on me with a knife till I locked myself in the bathroom. I was NOT going to hit her.

Nope, lived with her 2 more years, finished putting her thru nursing school and during/after my first heart attack she told me about her sleeping with 3 guys at work at the hospital and packed up my son and left me.

Flight58 - May 7, 2008 03:18 AM (GMT)
Man, Iowa.

I'm having a hard time not making Iowa got his ass beat by a chick jokes. :o

Iowahorse - May 7, 2008 03:28 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Flight58 @ May 6 2008, 09:18 PM)
Man, Iowa.

I'm having a hard time not making Iowa got his ass beat by a chick jokes. :o

Don't care if you do. I just knew I was not going to strike back. Because if I did, I'm not the type that holds back. I'd be in prison. There's just no sense in that. I will say that I hollered thru the bathroom door tho, that my next stop was the gun cabinet. She split. Wise Idea. Tho I said it mainly to get her the hell out of the house so I could go get patched up, stitched and my hide debrided. I've not hit a woman yet in my life and don't intend to. It takes even worse than that to get me to hurt a woman. Not that I ain't WANTED to kick the shitninnies out of a few,..but nope.

Flight58 - May 7, 2008 03:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Iowahorse @ May 6 2008, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (Flight58 @ May 6 2008, 09:18 PM)
Man, Iowa.

I'm having a hard time not making Iowa got his ass beat by a chick jokes.   :o

Don't care if you do. I just knew I was not going to strike back. Because if I did, I'm not the type that holds back. I'd be in prison. There's just no sense in that. I will say that I hollered thru the bathroom door tho, that my next stop was the gun cabinet. She split. Wise Idea. Tho I said it mainly to get her the hell out of the house so I could go get patched up, stitched and my hide debrided. I've not hit a woman yet in my life and don't intend to. It takes even worse than that to get me to hurt a woman. Not that I ain't WANTED to kick the shitninnies out of a few,..but nope.

I'd never ever hit a chick first, but if it was unavoidable and she came at me doing that shit...

If a chick comes at me swinging, spitting and burning my ass I will drop her ass and stand right up in court and admit that shit. I'm not about using my strength to beat her. I will subdue her though.

I was growing up and my older sister would hit me and pinch me and pull my hair. one day she chased my ass into the bathroom ( :lol: ), I was trying to close the door on her and she reached in and scratched my face.

Fuck that honor and gentlemen shit, I learned a lesson the when I opened the door and cracked my sister dead-square in the mouth. I was a pretty small kid and my sister had weight and reach on me, the lesson is that if you pop a chick in the mouth she will stop doing whatever she's doing.

My sister never pulled any that crap again.

6y545ty6

Iowahorse - May 7, 2008 03:58 AM (GMT)
I used to just threaten my sister with sticking her in a box without airholes and shipping her ass back to S.Korea. That usually shut her the hell up. (c'mon, I was like only 27 at the time) I kid I kid,..I was like 10, and she had my mom wound around her finger,..swallowed everything she said hook line and sinker. Hell I used to get grounded just by walking thru the door for lies my sis made up while I was playing outside,..far away. Untill I put the fear of UPS in her. bv764yu

fgtb76

RayEdmondson - May 7, 2008 04:08 AM (GMT)
If this is the first time he's been in trouble, any kind of trouble, I don't expect the NFL or Falcons to hand down any kind of suspension. I can understand it for habitual troublemakers, but not a player in trouble for the first time. Counseling, yes, Suspension, no.

eplayerj - May 7, 2008 10:51 AM (GMT)
Very compelling arguments fellas. I agree that this can go anyway with the league. I also understand that we don't know what is going on in boley's head right now. I just hope that he gets to air his mess out with a counselor and fix this problem.

Ton80kid - May 7, 2008 01:42 PM (GMT)
As of right now, I'd say nothing needs to be done to Boley. We don't know the whole story. We don't know if the "battery" was a simply shove, slap, or closed fist. We don't know if it was intentional or accidental. Right now, all we have is a report that his wife called the cops, and that after they arrived, they determined that Boley was the main aggressor. If he is truly guilty of wantonly hitting his wife, than I'd say that he's got to go through anger management courses, he should have to do community service in a battered women's shelter for several months and/or years, so he can gain a real sense of what beating women is, and what the end result can often become if he doesn't learn to control his emotions.

It could be that she pressed all of his buttons purposedly trying to set him off...regardless though...I think turning our back on him or trying to lay down some team discipline on him, is the wrong move...at least without knowing all of the facts...I don't believe Boley to be a "wife beater" so to speak. I think he's just a man, put into a stressful argument, that may have lost a bit of control. I also suspect that he's unbelievably sorry for what he's done...

eplayerj - May 7, 2008 02:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ton80kid @ May 7 2008, 07:42 AM)
As of right now, I'd say nothing needs to be done to Boley. We don't know the whole story. We don't know if the "battery" was a simply shove, slap, or closed fist. We don't know if it was intentional or accidental. Right now, all we have is a report that his wife called the cops, and that after they arrived, they determined that Boley was the main aggressor. If he is truly guilty of wantonly hitting his wife, than I'd say that he's got to go through anger management courses, he should have to do community service in a battered women's shelter for several months and/or years, so he can gain a real sense of what beating women is, and what the end result can often become if he doesn't learn to control his emotions.

It could be that she pressed all of his buttons purposedly trying to set him off...regardless though...I think turning our back on him or trying to lay down some team discipline on him, is the wrong move...at least without knowing all of the facts...I don't believe Boley to be a "wife beater" so to speak. I think he's just a man, put into a stressful argument, that may have lost a bit of control. I also suspect that he's unbelievably sorry for what he's done...

I also don't believe that he is a wife beater also. I know that because he put her out of the house, this has the consequences he was charged with. Never throw him away, but if the NFL rules are specific then he should get disciplined because of it. Whatever that discipline is. Also, he needs that counseling time along with his wife. She needs to be there. That is if they plan on reconciling.

BirdWeisErrr - May 7, 2008 07:38 PM (GMT)
At the very least he pushed her out of the door and into the yard. At the very least this caused him to be arrested and charged with battery. His arrest, at the very least, created more negative press for the Falcons. IMO, at the very least, he should and will be disciplined by the Falcons. Dimitroff is not gonna "let this be OK". It's not OK.

4 games may be a bit harsh but that's as long as I see a suspension happening. It's all the Falcons can do and if he's disciplined by the team I doubt the NFL will step in. This is basically a minor offense, although an embarrassing on. I don't think his wife even said he beat her up. Her story was that he threw her around a little bit. He admits to pushing her out of the door and into the yard.


UK - May 8, 2008 09:29 AM (GMT)
This is a real shame because I like Boley and he is already a fan favourite. We don't need another player in the spotlight for the wrong reasons again - I think the team has gone through enough in that respect.

Hopefully the Falcons do nothing apart from sit him down and talk to him about his actions and how they can affect the franchise. Then the courts deal with this in the neccessary way. Hopefully without too much publicity over it - but I guess that's unlikely.




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