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bergstar - April 27, 2008 07:34 AM (GMT)
Has there ever been a more over rated player in the history of the game ? why is the ridiculous price tag of £25m always quoted alongside this fella. Useless full back, can't tackle, his strength is supposed to be going forward, little end product and can't go a game without picking up a yellow card.

Cripps - April 27, 2008 10:16 AM (GMT)
Thought he was brilliant last season.

Not so much this

Da Silva Lining - April 27, 2008 10:23 AM (GMT)
As Cripps says he seems to have lost his way this season probably due to his head being turned by the big clubs offers. I rate him, more as a winger than a defender because he's superb going forward on his day.

KaiserKolo - April 27, 2008 12:22 PM (GMT)
He's like Eboue IMO. Play him as a winger and he'll be lost. Although he is much more versatile.

Mancini and Taddei of Roma are overrated as well.

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:22 AM (GMT)
Put Wesley Sneijder in the overrated list as well.

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coca Kolo @ Apr 28 2008, 12:22 AM)
Put Wesley Sneijder in the overrated list as well.

The Dutch Frank Lampard. :good:

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:24 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (KaiserKolo @ Apr 27 2008, 12:22 PM)
He's like Eboue IMO. Play him as a winger and he'll be lost. Although he is much more versatile.

Mancini and Taddei of Roma are overrated as well.

Mancini isn't.

Taddei is.

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:25 AM (GMT)
Also, Ivan Cordoba.

He's been living off his reputation for the past 4 years..

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:25 AM (GMT)
Mancini is a flat track bully, definitely overrated. Who rates Taddei? Underrated if anything.

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:27 AM (GMT)
Bastian Schweinsteiger is also another one. For Germany he plays in a sensational manner, for Bayern he's invisible.

BM - Mancini a flat track bully? :blink:

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:28 AM (GMT)
Also, Maicon is twice the player Alves is.

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:29 AM (GMT)
Oh and Lukas Podolski is also another for the overrated thread.

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:30 AM (GMT)
As is Sidney Govou.

Cripps - April 28, 2008 12:31 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coca Kolo @ Apr 28 2008, 01:22 AM)
Put Wesley Sneijder in the overrated list as well.

:rolleyes:

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:32 AM (GMT)
Daniel Van Buyten as well. Big Lump who's just good at heading.

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cripps @ Apr 28 2008, 12:31 AM)
QUOTE (Coca Kolo @ Apr 28 2008, 01:22 AM)
Put Wesley Sneijder in the overrated list as well.

:rolleyes:

Que?

Cripps - April 28, 2008 12:33 AM (GMT)
Seen him play for Real this season?

Absolute quality.

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:34 AM (GMT)
Coca - Yes, always around when the Catania's and Atalanta's come to town but nowhere to be seen in the CL. I hope Roma sell him off while the memory of his goal against Lyon is still fresh in people's minds

Raul Tamudo, so underrated. :good:


Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:35 AM (GMT)
I'll say Underrated, you say Overrated, alright CK?

Cripps - April 28, 2008 12:35 AM (GMT)
Michael Essien

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cripps @ Apr 28 2008, 12:33 AM)
Seen him play for Real this season?

Absolute quality.

Meh.

He's been carried by others in the team.


A few more overrated one's:

Simao
Zambrotta
Nakamura
Klose

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:38 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Black Magic @ Apr 28 2008, 12:35 AM)
I'll say Underrated, you say Overrated, alright CK?

:dunce:


ps, I agree with Raul Tamudo, and is genuinely unlucky to be playing in the Raul era of Spain.

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:39 AM (GMT)
Ottl
Guiza
Julio Cesar
Martin Jorgensen
Poulsen
Aquafresca
Cassano
Lavezzi

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cripps @ Apr 28 2008, 12:35 AM)
Michael Essien

Which reminds me of the Keita brothers of Lyon and Sevilla. Two great players.

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coca Kolo @ Apr 28 2008, 12:38 AM)
QUOTE (Black Magic @ Apr 28 2008, 12:35 AM)
I'll say Underrated, you say Overrated, alright CK?

:dunce:


ps, I agree with Raul Tamudo, and genuinely unlucky to be playing the Raul era of Spain.

I'll name some of the players I think are underrated and you name players who you think are overrated.

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Black Magic @ Apr 28 2008, 12:39 AM)
Ottl
Guiza
Julio Cesar
Martin Jorgensen
Poulsen
Aquafresca
Cassano
Lavezzi

:goodpost:

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:42 AM (GMT)
Tim Borowski is overrated.

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:44 AM (GMT)
Agger
Liverani
Pazzini
Moggi
Ujfalusi
Cambiasso
Mutu - As good as Ibra
Neuer

Cripps - April 28, 2008 12:45 AM (GMT)
Cambiasso is frelling quality.

But hes Argentinian so :goodpost:

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Black Magic @ Apr 28 2008, 12:44 AM)
Agger
Liverani
Pazzini
Moggi
Ujfalusi
Cambiasso
Mutu - As good as Ibra
Neuer

- Overrated.
- Never seen him play.
- Underrated.
- Never seen him play.
- Neither here nor there.
- Underrated.
- Underrated.
- Never seen him play.

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:47 AM (GMT)
Balotelli - Better than Pato
N'Kufo
Afellay
Seedorf
Nihat
Sahin
De Guzman

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:48 AM (GMT)
Am I missing something? Does the "Good Posting" emoticon mean something different now?

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Black Magic @ Apr 28 2008, 12:47 AM)
Balotelli - Better than Pato
N'Kufo
Afellay
Seedorf
Nihat
Sahin
De Guzman

- Overrated, he's not better than Pato.
- Never seen him play.
- Underrated.
- Hmm..thats a toughie..Underrated.
- Underrated.
- Neither here nor there.
- Underrated.


BM, what do you think of Kader Keita?

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:50 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coca Kolo @ Apr 28 2008, 12:46 AM)
QUOTE (Black Magic @ Apr 28 2008, 12:44 AM)
Agger
Liverani
Pazzini
Moggi
Ujfalusi
Cambiasso
Mutu - As good as Ibra
Neuer

- Overrated.
- Never seen him play.
- Underrated.
- Never seen him play.
- Neither here nor there.
- Underrated.
- Underrated.
- Never seen him play.

You're right, the Scousers overrate all their players. You've never seen Liverani play? :blink: Ex Lazio captain and current Fiorentina Vice captain!

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 12:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
You've never seen Liverani play?  Ex Lazio captain and current Fiorentina Vice captain!


I must have seen him play then. I've seen Fiorentina quite a bit this season. Honestly, I don't know who he is.

BM, your opinion on Inler and Zapater?

Cripps - April 28, 2008 12:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coca Kolo @ Apr 28 2008, 01:50 AM)
QUOTE (Black Magic @ Apr 28 2008, 12:47 AM)
Balotelli - Better than Pato
N'Kufo
Afellay
Seedorf
Nihat
Sahin
De Guzman

- Overrated, he's not better than Pato.
- Never seen him play.
- Underrated.
- Hmm..thats a toughie..Underrated.
- Underrated.
- Neither here nor there.
- Underrated.


BM, what do you think of Kader Keita?

Balotelli will be better

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 12:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Coca Kolo @ Apr 28 2008, 12:50 AM)
QUOTE (Black Magic @ Apr 28 2008, 12:47 AM)
Balotelli - Better than Pato
N'Kufo
Afellay
Seedorf
Nihat
Sahin
De Guzman

- Overrated, he's not better than Pato.
- Never seen him play.
- Underrated.
- Hmm..thats a toughie..Underrated.
- Underrated.
- Neither here nor there.
- Underrated.


BM, what do you think of Kader Keita?

He is currently better than Pato, who I rate very highly.

Has been awful for Lyon this season, but was one of the best players in the ACON, it's a toughie. I'd take a gamble on him simply because of the flair Keita has, we badly need it at the club IMO.

Continuing my list:

J. Moutinho
Toulalan
Distin
Beye
Giovinco
Mandanda

Coca Kolo - April 28, 2008 01:01 AM (GMT)
- Underrated - the next Deco.
- Underrated, a better Flamini.
- Neither here nor there.
- Habib Beye? - Overrated.
- Underrated.
- Never seen him play.

Keita - I'd take a gamble on him. If I was a manager of a PL club and needed some attacking midfielders, he'd be on the top of my list.

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 01:04 AM (GMT)
Zapata is close to World Class already. Very Versatile too, Id pay over the odds to see him play at CB for us. :good:

I've only seen Inler twice at the U21 Champioships for Switzerland, didn't particularely impress me. Good technique for a tall fellow.

Quagliarella
Makaay
Gio Van Bronkhorst
Dembele
D'Agostino
Ledesma
Mutarelli
Fritz

Black Magic - April 28, 2008 01:06 AM (GMT)
CK - Im naming all my Underrated players, Im not asking you to choose what you think. I'd like to see you make a list of players you think are overrated. :good:




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