If we put an all star African team together:


---Drogba/Adebayor------Eto'o/Kanoute--

---------Muntari/Kalou/Pienaar---------

--Y.Toure/Appiah------------Essien------

------------Keita/Diarra/Makoun-------------

---Boka/Taiwo---Yobo/Mensah---K.Toure---Eboue/Geremi---

--------------------Kameni----------------

That looks pretty strong, so my question is, if they were to compete in the Euro's, where do you think they would probably finish ? Is this team good enough to beat the top European international teams ?

good enough?

it would wipe the floor with most Euro teams!

Certainly good enough to win the WC much less the Euros.

(But of course it would be -- you're picking the best players not from a single country but from a CONTINENT.)

Thats with no players from Egypt as well.

They have been the best team in Africa for a few years.

Still would have a crap defence

African Football is very close to my heart, and I have strong feelings about the current state - Even though this was an "African best 11 thread"

African football needs more Okocha's and less Keita's and Obi Mikel's. There are a lot of creative skillful kids in Africa, so why are there so few Feindouno's being produced and heading over to Europe?

African nations need their own coaches instead of wasting all their money on some old Western European guy who knows he's going to get another job no matter how terribly the team he's managing plays. Egypt have been a solid example of local staff being the way to go. Better local coaches = Better football development among the youth players.

For example, Vogts taking helm at Nigeria. I don't blame Vogts for taking job in Nigeria, but he was doomed to fail. He had his own ideas that marginalised Nigerians. Problem is he cut himself off from local knowledge by doing it. He might have been successful against the odds if he integrated local coaches like Amokachi into set up. He didn't and paid price. Nigerian FA also ruined up royally by not ensuring that Vogts had plan to make up for lack of local knowledge.

They should have gotten somone in like Shaibu. Shaibu has local knowledge and he has integrated local coaches into his set up. Nigeria are the class of Africa at the moment. There is a lesson in there somewhere. For countries that don't have local talent fair enough, hire whoever you can, but those that have resources must develop local talent and use it. Egypt has done it and Ghana did it in the 60s. Africa needs to develop their leagues, infrastructures and coaches. Nigeria has learned its lesson. Look at the results! If only the rest of Afica could follow Egypt's example - They are the classic example of getting infrastructure, domestic leagues, professionalism, coaching and ability right. They have excellent administrators who had a long term plan that delivered quickly. If Shehata is not a big name in African football, that's great for Egypt. The NFA should pack their bags for an extended break in Cairo and learn how to run a FA properly. And Shehata is and was a big name in Egypt. Check his resume. The man always was a damn good coach.

The two most successful coaches in African Cup of Nations history are Africans Charles Gyamfi of Ghana and Hassan Shehata. Gyamfi won it an unprecedented three times in 1963, 65 and 1982 with Ghana. Interestingly he was replaced by Parreira on the eve of the 1968 competition and Ghana lost to Congo (Kinshasa). Gyamfi was relegated to assistant by the military government that toppled Kwame Nkrumah's government. He returned in 1982. Ghana has won it four times. Every time the coach was African.

And Shehata became the second most successful coach in ACN history in Ghana 2008. Why do people think African coaches are more successful than Europeans and why do they think that African Federations keep hiring Europeans even when there are good African candidates and pay over the odds for lack of success. The last ACN had thirteen foreign coaches, mostly Europeans - many of whom failed miserably. Why for example did Benin hire Reinhard Fabisch after qualification was achieved by a local coach?


As for an African starting 11, it would be something similar "Spurs Hate La-Sagna"'s team, with Feindouno playing as the pivot. :good:

great post, BM.


(It's just a shame that your name makes me think of bowel movements)

you shit in a box?!!


and BM it seems to hold true in all leagues that foreign is deemed better when as pointed out you need players/manager with a vested interest in the long term future.

how good is this kameni?

never trust African keepers

I think this team would wipe the floor with an all star Asian team and could even beat an all star European team, which shows the strength the Africans have built in football over the past decade or so.

Yes - you'd get a fantastic team with players only from the North American continent. ;)

Thanks, if only my first paragraph wasn't riddled with grammatical errors. I've fixed it now.

I've just got so much passion about African Football's current state and future, (Being born in South Africa and all) I can see that the potential for amazing things is there, I'm talking World Cups here, and if the fat cats (pardon my old school expression) up top did their job properly, Africa would be a lot closer to their potential.

I remember you were calling me "Magic" early last year, why don't you go back to that?

I don't watch too many Espanol games, (well, not until Raul Tamudo got injured, Awesome player!) but I would say he's a very good keeper. He's probably the best shot-stopper in La Liga after Casillas and Palop, though he doesn't command his area that well, he doesn't look particularly tall for a goal keeper, and is at times, erratic. He's a little unsteady coming for crosses too. He's been a very important player for Espanol though, and he was instrumental for their Copa Del Rey win a few years ago. He could turn out to be a great goalie since he's still quite young.

I saw a lot of Kameni in the ACN. He was the best Cameroonian player in the final. He single-handedly kept Egypt at bay. It was a superb performance and he should was unlucky not to be included in squad of team of tournament. He is a good keeper, but needs to be believed in. His confidence was affected when he made mistakes and own supporters turned on him in Spain. He was monkey-chanted by some Espanyol ultras a couple of years back. If he has confidence and feels believed in he will do fine, but if turned on it could affect his game.

aye, you've got a point.


But I still maintain that team would beat Antartica. :sulk:




:penguin:

No they wouldn't.












FACT!

Berti Vogts is a cnut!

Best Scotland manager since Craig Brown

Crisps casts off

dingle dangle

Oh, he's got one...a big one

reel, reel

reel, reel

(shouts to his imaginary friend) "Get the net Marc, I've got a big one"

reel reel

...and pulls out...a welly boot!!!!




Now piss off :ilt: