http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/2...ger-on-arshavin

I think hes already at the Messi/Ronaldo level. He's at the right level of club to achieve top honours and seems hungry to prove himself. The only worry is fitness/injury issues but if he can stay fit and replicate his form of last season (hopefully Olympiacos was the real beginning of his season) I see no reason why he cannot lead us to trophies.

Don't know what it is, but I just don't see things working out well with Arshavin.

Quality player, still cant believe we only got him for what, 10mil?

Not fair to heap too much expectation on him though, in my opinion. Football is a team game after all.

I don't suppose he'll reach the level of Ronaldo or Messi but Arshavin can be a tremendous player at this club. He has produced some excellent performances since he arrived, including re-energizing the team at the end of last season.

I suppose he could be in terms of what they are to their teams (matchwinner, talisman) but they're on a different level to everyone especially Messi. Not to say Arshavin's not godlike...

Easily yay, just not sure he will achieve this superlative level of performance at our club atm- In fact I seriously doubt we'll see another TH14 like figure in Arsernal under AW (but if AW chooses to stay for another 30 years, might have to review this opinion).

Yeah, he really could be as effective for us as they are but frankly, I'll be happy with him providing some balance and a bit of mercurial brilliance now and again, rather than knocking in 30 goals a season.

He's quality, but not at the Messi or Ronaldo level, and never will be.

Hopefully as good as if not better than Ronaldo.

Hes already better than Messi

He won't be as good as Messi or Ronaldo but he'll be better than Pires.

Wash your fuckin' mouth out! :angry:

:goodpost: :wwf:

You knows I'm right.

Pires joined us at 27. So did Arshavin.

But Arshavin is more talented and will score more goals.

Believe. :good:

Pires won trophys with us Arshavin wont

Pires had Henry. Arshavin has Diaby.

KK, imho, tbfh, give it time. We'll win something this year. Never been so sure of anything in my life.

You're so right Diaby>Henry :bow:

Hleb was better than all of them tbh.

But the real question is...

Is Arshavin better than Pires on PES?

83 shot power, tbfh.

:good:

He'll be best remembered for winning us that pen in the 07/08 season in the CL quarters against Liverpool that we won and ended up winning the competition.

Btw, Steven McTowelie, I got, but wtf is behind this name?!!!

It's all about taking down the regime, innit?

Valkyrie the film starring Tom Cruise

I didnt get Stephen McTowelie

South Park, imho.

I see tbfh

Is he fuck.

:coffee:

Arshavin is a terrific player but Ronaldo is something else...goals galore, pace to burn, great ball skills and can head too.

Messi's a fantastic player too but for me Ronaldo is better. Arshavin will score goals and will create but he'll never score as many as Pires and will never have that special gaelic flair which Pires had...he's a great dribbler though.

I don't think Arshavin can lead us to trophies though, we need some other top class players....do we have them I'm not sure, some have potential but it's difficult to tell how much.

I like Arshavin but you can fuckoff, tbh.

Arshavin's goalscoring record so far (for Arsenal) - a goal every 2.44 games. That's in all comps. His league record is better.

Pires' goalscoring record for the club - a goal every 3.36

Arshavin is now only 55 league goals behind Pires. He's knocking off the runs in less than 4 seasons.

And it's not just about scoring goals, assists-wise, match-winning-ability-wise...any way you wanna look at it, the Russian's coming out on top. We have a tendency to overrate players that have won things just because some are so desperate to see us win a trophy. Put Arshavin in a team next to Bergkamp and Henry, and he would've won a loada shit too.

ultimately a player is judged by trophies, shearer and le tissier are examples of great players who were at clubs that won little or nothing for most of their careers. I guess you could make an exception for the david may type who have won titles without playing much or doing much.

Fair enough.

Arshavin for winning trophies in Europe :bow:

very few outside of russia (or eastern europe I presume) know or care about russian football and who wins it

Not the trophies I was referring to...

Syn, I'll take this.

He won the UEFA Cup with Zenit.

which is the carling cup of european football :good:

even if he had won more high profile trophies eg the cl or a title in one of the top european leagues it wouldn't make him a legend for us. suker won lots with real madrid (I think) but he wasn't spectacular for us.

Makes little difference. Zenit were in it, they won it. And Arshavin was a big part of them winning it.

Plus it's not like they just beat rubbish teams en route to reaching the final.

Also, if we do get knocked out of the Carling Cup, I hope it won't bother you too much.

I went to the last carling cup game so I do care about it but it isn't in the same league as even the fa cup.

my point about the uefa win was that it won't be remembered.

Arshavin is a good player though and I hope he does win things at Arsenal so he will be remembered on the wider footballing stage. I think he said he joined us in part to make his name elsewhere.

Just because you won't remember it, doesn't mean it won't be remembered. Actually thanks to the Rangers fans actions in Manchester that night probably won't be forgotten.

:whistle:

Arshavin. :lol:

Awful player.

I think that's right. I've always thought we need the catalyst players and we are beginning to get them. Arshavin and Verlmaelen (sp?) are such - they clearly have an effect on the players around them. They could be what makes the difference between falling short by a few points or winning silverware. Just getting thoes extra points we drop with the draws when, with a bit more motivation on the pitch in the game, we could pick up the extra 2 points a win would bring. You only need a few of those to reach the top. When heads drop after 70 minutes of not getting to score, it is players like him that can tip it in the last 20 minutes by keeping at it and showing the others how it is done.

well not the Fair Play League anyway, Song is screwing that up for us single footedly :sulk: did you mean a real cup?

All the signs are that Roland* could be great for us, just needs to keep off the pies and keep his head in the game he might just be okay for us....and if Rosicky can just keep fit :scarf:




*Grange Hill reference