National Hockey League 2009-10 (Goonersweb)

Sid the kid sleeping with the Cup!

COME ON YOU AVs!

QUOTE (Get Bendtner @ Oct 11 2009, 04:43 PM)

Sid the kid sleeping with the Cup!

I'll be following that man closely this season after all the good stuff I've heard.

LETS FUCKING DO IT CANUCKS!

Leafs, Ron Wilson :haha:

Chicago Bears :bow:

Not a good start for the Leafs. :haha:

Or the Canyucks. ;)

Pittsburgh Penguins!! Last year felt so great after what happened the year before

QUOTE (Get Bendtner @ Oct 11 2009, 07:51 PM)

Not a good start for the Leafs. :haha:

Or the Canyucks. ;)

Daniel Sedin out for 4 weeeks with a broken foot too.

Flames off to hot start, same with the Rangers.

I love the guy and think he is great but am i the only one who thinks Luongo is just a bit overrated?

I love Luongo (even though he's a Canyuck) and really enjoyed it as they interviewed him during the all-star game, but my god, he is over-rated.

LA at NYI is on live now in widescreen on ESPN Sky Channel 417.

2nd Period just underway.

The Kings held on to win 2-1. Thats four in a row for them now.

QUOTE (Get Bendtner @ Oct 12 2009, 03:04 PM)

I love Luongo (even though he's a Canyuck) and really enjoyed it as they interviewed him during the all-star game, but my god, he is over-rated.

Yeah he is a classy guy who really wants to win but he has done nothing to warrant the praise he gets. Vancouver hasnt even made a conference semi in god knows how long.

Your Flames are looking good, rebound year for Phaneuf? I hate Calgary but he is my kind of player. Full package.

Flames vs Hawks should be a good rematch

QUOTE (Mr. Lahey @ Oct 12 2009, 10:19 PM)

Flames vs Hawks should be a good rematch

It was fucking embarrassing.

5-0 up, losing 6-5 and giving up another 39 shots is fucking ridiculous.

There has been a hell of a lot of good fortune to the Flames start this season. One of the things Suter was supposed to be sorting out was the shocking defence. So he blows tonnes of salary on Bouwmeester. And what is the result? Before last night the Flames have conceded more shots against than any team in the League and another 39 conceded last night.

This is fucking humiliating and if it continues, a first round exit in the play-offs will look like a distant but fond memory.

Can't see the Flames doing anything with that defence and McElhinney has back-up to Kiprusoff.

Give it time GTG, Bouwmeester is a good defencemen and it will take time for your defense to learn the new system (if Sutter has one).

I think Igi is a problem too, he is kind of like Joe Thornton. Good player but cant take his team to the next level. Phaneuf I like but for some reason he is struggling. Maybe he needs to lay of Cuthbert for a while and eat some nails.

In regards to that game I cant believe they lost it in the 3rd like that. Inexcusable and laughable (sorry) however Chi town can light up any team whenever they want. The final game against Van City in the playoffs last year is a testament to that.

Btw, Theo Fleury has a new book out called Playing With Fire that is a pretty deep read. Talks about the sexual abuse he suffered, drugs, booze, women, the ugly side of New York and his eventual downfall in Chicago.

Ill definatley be picking it up. Heres the cover.

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Gary, I am curious what do you think of the currant state of the NHL?

For me I cant remember the last time when there was this much parity or as many good players in the league in a while. I would say as far back as the late 80's and early 90's.

I think the players with the potential to be stars were always there - we just didn't see their potential because of the rise of clutch and grab hockey. This type of hockey almost completely smothered the skilled players and stifled scoring. Only skilled and incredibly strong players, such as Jarome Iginla could rise above it and shine.

The rule changes penalising this type of hockey have been an absolute godsend. The game is now faster, more free flowing, and you are right, we are seeing a lot of players with skillz that killz and it is wonderful.

Also, the salary cap has had a fantastic effect in ensuring that the talent Champs the following season? And what a series last year was! I was up til 5.30 am in my hotel room in Italy watching game 7 and was so wired I couldn't sleep after it.

My one reservation is the points system. It does go someway to keeping the teams closer together and ensuring that just about everybody has something to play for and therefore more excitement. But I think there should be 3 points up for grabs every game. The reward for a regulation time win should be 3 points, with 2 points for an OT win and 1 point for an OT loss. It would be interesting to see how this sort of system would affect the standings.

Flavs - not sure if you read this thread, but here's some news of one of Chicago's hockey heroes from your time following the Blackhawks.

Chelios back in Chicago with AHL Wolves

QUOTE

Chris Chelios's first shot attempt at the start of a two-hour practice Wednesday eluded the goalie's reach and landed in the net.

At age 47, Chelios raised his arms straight above his head in mock triumph. Happiness, as he's proving these days, means being on the ice with a hockey team no matter where you are or who you're playing for.

It's no longer the NHL, where he played for 25 years, won the Norris Trophy three times as the league's best defenceman, and was a member of three Stanley Cup champions.

Chelios has landed in the American Hockey League with the Chicago Wolves, who play their games at the suburban All-State Arena. That's 27 kilometres from the United Center, where Chelios was once a star for his hometown Blackhawks before he was traded to the Detroit Red Wings in 1999.

Chelios didn't hook up with an NHL team after playing only 28 games last season with the Red Wings. Still, the game was in his blood. He even looked at playing in Russia, just to keep lacing up the skates.

He wasn't ready to retire like, say, Brett Favre, and then perhaps try a comeback at a later date.

"I want to make sure there is nothing left when I retire, so I don't want to be one of those guys who comes back," Chelios said. "Not that I don't admire what Favre is doing. I'd love to have the same story he's got right now. Like I said, I enjoy the game just like I did when I started. I'm really excited. It's a great old building and it's going to be fun."

Chelios started skating with the Wolves last week and after playing so few games last season — part of that due to a leg injury sustained in a pre-season game — and needed to work on his on-ice conditioning.

Some of his teammates are the same age — 20 — as his oldest son, Dean, who is playing at Michigan State. Another son, Jake, plays for the Chicago Steel of the U.S. Hockey League.

"I'm fortunate I got a couple of sons I prepared all summer with like I was going to play. I didn't get picked up [by an NHL team]," Chelios said. "So I'm just going to keep going and hope things keep working out. As long as I'm enjoying playing and helping the team out, that's all that matters."

The Wolves, a franchise since 1994, have four minor-league championships but this year are off to a 1-5 start and fired coach Don Granato on Monday. The workout Wednesday came under new coach Don Lever, who began this season as a scout for the Blackhawks.

Now Lever will be behind the bench and says his emphasis will be on defence. Guess who he's counting on to teach his young players?

"You know what? He's still the smartest player out on the ice, I'll tell you that," Lever said of Chelios. "He could add a lot just teaching the young guys … What do you say when you got a future Hall of Famer on your hockey team?"

Chelios, whose career began in 1983 with Montreal, joked that he was trying to remember if he played against or did anything wrong to the 56-year-old Lever. Their NHL careers overlapped briefly. Lever finished playing in 1987.

"I hope I didn't," Chelios said.

For 21-year-old Wolves right wing Spencer Machacek, who will have to skate against Chelios at times in practice, just being on the ice with a player of such reputation is a big thrill.

"It's a huge honour," Machacek said. "He sees the ice so well and I think he won three Stanley Cups, so that shows right there he's a winner … He's in such good shape, that's why he's still playing. He's out here to help the young guys out and get better himself."

Chelios, who signed a professional tryout contract, is scheduled to make his debut with the Wolves on Friday against Manitoba. It's not his first venture in the AHL. He played two games with the Grand Rapids Griffins last season.

"Everybody is always looking for leadership and I hope I can provide that," he said. "I've been in this role for a while now because of my age."

Chelios will quickly point out the difference between the NHL and the AHL.

"Obviously the NHL is another step quicker. The skill level a step better, but there are plenty of guys in this league who could be playing in the NHL," he said.

Chelios, who was booed loudly while with the Red Wings when they played in Chicago, doesn't expect to hear that kind of reception again.

"I hope not," he said with a laugh. "I'm on the Wolves now. I'm on a Chicago team."

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2009...es-chelios.html

Can I suggest to you North American Sports fans, that we have a ' North American ' thread....

To cover NHL, NBA, MLB and the Football.

I'd like to post every now and again about all Sports but if theres no thread we don't get to talk about it.

Only a suggestion, might get more posts than an individual sport.

I really enjoy talking Hockey, Baseball especially.

QUOTE (Get Bendtner @ Oct 22 2009, 08:18 AM)

I think the players with the potential to be stars were always there - we just didn't see their potential because of the rise of clutch and grab hockey. This type of hockey almost completely smothered the skilled players and stifled scoring. Only skilled and incredibly strong players, such as Jarome Iginla could rise above it and shine.

The rule changes penalising this type of hockey have been an absolute godsend. The game is now faster, more free flowing, and you are right, we are seeing a lot of players with skillz that killz and it is wonderful.

Also, the salary cap has had a fantastic effect in ensuring that the talent Champs the following season? And what a series last year was! I was up til 5.30 am in my hotel room in Italy watching game 7 and was so wired I couldn't sleep after it.

My one reservation is the points system. It does go someway to keeping the teams closer together and ensuring that just about everybody has something to play for and therefore more excitement. But I think there should be 3 points up for grabs every game. The reward for a regulation time win should be 3 points, with 2 points for an OT win and 1 point for an OT loss. It would be interesting to see how this sort of system would affect the standings.

I agree ever since the rule changes have been put in place its been a completley different game.

Who was responsible for the changes? Was it Bettman, the PA or the players, joint effort? I cant remember.

As for the point system I have to agree again. I hate this 1 point for OT loss again I see what they are trying to do here but wouldnt it promote more attacking play if especially the away team went for the win everytime rather than settle for the draw and hope to squeak out the win in the shootout? I think it would be best if it were 3 for the win and 1 for the draw like you said.

Who are your top 5 players today?In order for me:

Ovechkin: I like Sid but Ovie brings a more physical element and I believe he is the hardest working player in the NHL, and that says something when you have somebody who is as talented as he is.

Crosby: No brainer for this one. The only thing he doesnt have that Ovie does is size, he doesnt physically impose himself like him but I dont think ive ever seen anybody twist and turn down low like he does, plus he is incredibly intelligent not to mention youngest player to ever win a Stanley Cup as captain.

Datsyuk: This was a tough call between him and Malkin. But Datsyuk wins it because he is so good defensivley and as a forward its very rare that you get somebody with his skill and is that good in his own end. Plus his physical play is underrated, Ive seen him lay out a few good body checks.

Malkin: You need somebody to score and create, he is your guy. Points, points and more points. People were questioning his heart after the first playoff year for him, dont think they are anymore. Still thinks he is lacking defensivley and can go missing at times but he can sure light it up when he is in the moood.

Lidstrom: Saavy Vet, never makes a mistake in his own end. His composure in his own end is unmatching. The captain of the Wings, 4 or 5 Stanley Cups (cant remember) and he can put the puck in the net as well. He is getting on a bit now but this guy is the best defensemen in the game. Not to mention he is an ironman. I remember seeing an interview and they asked him what the key to staying healthy was and he said that it was because he stays in control of his body at all times.

Honorable Mentions:
Getzlaf: Big, powerful and can score
Iginla: See Getzlaf
Parise: Very underrated player, can score with the best
Thornton: Big Joe, best playmaker today, is going to get Heatly at least 50 this year maybe even 60 goals

As for goalies its been tough for them since all the rule changes and equipment changes and they have suffered IMO. There is not one goalie IMO that is head and shoulders above the rest but there are a few that are in the same class.

Kipper
Louie
Mason from Columbus
Lundquivst
Thomas
Backstrom
Ward
Brodeur even though he is on his way out

are all top top goalies.

QUOTE (Elche @ Oct 22 2009, 09:42 AM)

Can I suggest to you North American Sports fans, that we have a ' North American ' thread....

To cover NHL, NBA, MLB and the Football.

I'd like to post every now and again about all Sports but if theres no thread we don't get to talk about it.

Only a suggestion, might get more posts than an individual sport.

I really enjoy talking Hockey, Baseball especially.

that is a good idea because alot of the threads about those sports tend to fall off when nobody is posting.

However Im keeping this one alive even if i have to talk to myself.

Love to be able to watch this weekly. Haven't got sky or anything like that :(

Saw The Redwings show off the Stanley Cup in 97/98. Cracking sport.

QUOTE (LuvDeGooners @ Oct 23 2009, 03:26 PM)

Love to be able to watch this weekly. Haven't got sky or anything like that :(

Saw The Redwings show off the Stanley Cup in 97/98. Cracking sport.

nice to see another fan. Hockey doesnt get enough attention globally. Sure its poplular in the scandinavian countries but other than that Canada is the only place. Only certain markets in the States are interested.

It was hilarious when US stations started to put this glowing hue on the puck because they couldnt see it and when somebody would shoot it would streak across the screen :haha: They have no problem seeing a white ball being smashed 400ft at 150kms an hour puch cant follow the puck.

BTW yoou can watch plenty of games online.

QUOTE (Get Bendtner @ Oct 22 2009, 08:24 AM)

Flavs - not sure if you read this thread, but here's some news of one of Chicago's hockey heroes from your time following the Blackhawks.

Chelios back in Chicago with AHL Wolves

QUOTE

Chris Chelios's first shot attempt at the start of a two-hour practice Wednesday eluded the goalie's reach and landed in the net.

At age 47, Chelios raised his arms straight above his head in mock triumph. Happiness, as he's proving these days, means being on the ice with a hockey team no matter where you are or who you're playing for.

It's no longer the NHL, where he played for 25 years, won the Norris Trophy three times as the league's best defenceman, and was a member of three Stanley Cup champions.

Chelios has landed in the American Hockey League with the Chicago Wolves, who play their games at the suburban All-State Arena. That's 27 kilometres from the United Center, where Chelios was once a star for his hometown Blackhawks before he was traded to the Detroit Red Wings in 1999.

Chelios didn't hook up with an NHL team after playing only 28 games last season with the Red Wings. Still, the game was in his blood. He even looked at playing in Russia, just to keep lacing up the skates.

He wasn't ready to retire like, say, Brett Favre, and then perhaps try a comeback at a later date.

"I want to make sure there is nothing left when I retire, so I don't want to be one of those guys who comes back," Chelios said. "Not that I don't admire what Favre is doing. I'd love to have the same story he's got right now. Like I said, I enjoy the game just like I did when I started. I'm really excited. It's a great old building and it's going to be fun."

Chelios started skating with the Wolves last week and after playing so few games last season — part of that due to a leg injury sustained in a pre-season game — and needed to work on his on-ice conditioning.

Some of his teammates are the same age — 20 — as his oldest son, Dean, who is playing at Michigan State. Another son, Jake, plays for the Chicago Steel of the U.S. Hockey League.

"I'm fortunate I got a couple of sons I prepared all summer with like I was going to play. I didn't get picked up [by an NHL team]," Chelios said. "So I'm just going to keep going and hope things keep working out. As long as I'm enjoying playing and helping the team out, that's all that matters."

The Wolves, a franchise since 1994, have four minor-league championships but this year are off to a 1-5 start and fired coach Don Granato on Monday. The workout Wednesday came under new coach Don Lever, who began this season as a scout for the Blackhawks.

Now Lever will be behind the bench and says his emphasis will be on defence. Guess who he's counting on to teach his young players?

"You know what? He's still the smartest player out on the ice, I'll tell you that," Lever said of Chelios. "He could add a lot just teaching the young guys … What do you say when you got a future Hall of Famer on your hockey team?"

Chelios, whose career began in 1983 with Montreal, joked that he was trying to remember if he played against or did anything wrong to the 56-year-old Lever. Their NHL careers overlapped briefly. Lever finished playing in 1987.

"I hope I didn't," Chelios said.

For 21-year-old Wolves right wing Spencer Machacek, who will have to skate against Chelios at times in practice, just being on the ice with a player of such reputation is a big thrill.

"It's a huge honour," Machacek said. "He sees the ice so well and I think he won three Stanley Cups, so that shows right there he's a winner … He's in such good shape, that's why he's still playing. He's out here to help the young guys out and get better himself."

Chelios, who signed a professional tryout contract, is scheduled to make his debut with the Wolves on Friday against Manitoba. It's not his first venture in the AHL. He played two games with the Grand Rapids Griffins last season.

"Everybody is always looking for leadership and I hope I can provide that," he said. "I've been in this role for a while now because of my age."

Chelios will quickly point out the difference between the NHL and the AHL.

"Obviously the NHL is another step quicker. The skill level a step better, but there are plenty of guys in this league who could be playing in the NHL," he said.

Chelios, who was booed loudly while with the Red Wings when they played in Chicago, doesn't expect to hear that kind of reception again.

"I hope not," he said with a laugh. "I'm on the Wolves now. I'm on a Chicago team."

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2009...es-chelios.html

i do mate yes, cant believe he is 47 already. Bet he is still a crazy bastard

Flicked on the highlights the other day and I guess they have re-franchised by the way i didnt know Atlanta had a team :blink:

QUOTE (LuvDeGooners @ Oct 23 2009, 03:26 PM)

Love to be able to watch this weekly. Haven't got sky or anything like that :(

:pal:

I can get NBA, NHL, NFL and baselball. I even get womens basketball :coffee:

The Blackhacks are still there. He is playing in a lower league - and yep - he is one crazy bastard. But he fucking loves the game - he'll play til he can no loner walk.

Atlanta got their team when the League expanded to 30 teams.

HNIC starting now.

First up, Calgary at Toronto

Just over a minute in and Iginla puts the Flames one up! :jumpnana:

Nystrom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2-0 Easy!!!!!!!

1:37 in!!!!

Reminds me of Lidstromm or something similar.

Used to play for Red Wings i think

Is that right?

Nicklas Lidstrom.

Aye.

Did you get that from a videogame?

Nah used to watch this back in the day.

Fedorov was awesome tbh. Best player ive ever seen in my limited time as a fan

Yzerman (sp) i was a big fan of and there was Brett Hull. Tis a shame his good name is ruined. Larry Murphy as well was a player i enjoyed watching Of course i got it from a game, you dont expect me to watch this sport do you?

Bollox - 2-1 - Stupid penalty by Bourque

QUOTE (Ach @ Nov 15 2009, 12:32 AM)

Nah used to watch this back in the day.

Fedorov was awesome tbh. Best player ive ever seen in my limited time as a fan

Yzerman (sp) i was a big fan of and there was Brett Hull. Tis a shame his good name is ruined. Larry Murphy as well was a player i enjoyed watching Of course i got it from a game, you dont expect me to watch this sport do you?

Figured as much.

Seriously though, whilst im not a massive fan, i wouldnt have got the NHL games if i didnt like it a bit.

Dont understand the rules but love the fighting tbh.

Watch it during the olympics i do

Hockey that is, not the fighting

You'd enjoy this then. There have been two fights in this one already! :lol:

Good tactic by Toronto to stop Calgary playing hockey and has shifted momentum.

Used to play this myself - great fun!

Oh and Boyd has just put the Flames 3-1 up!!!

Flames with shitty penalties are throwing this away 3-2 now

Flames doing their best to throw it away.

They have sucked more than I have seen them suck all season.

Cannot fricken believe it, hope Suter sorts it out.

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