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Walcott almost certainly out anything less then 3 points is unacceptable.

I think it will be a draw :coffee:

Tough test as with all CL away games.

3 points would be perfect though, we'll have the group all but wrapped up.

Wonder what happened to the AZ crest :coffee:

You were done for hotlinking...

:ninja:

:haha:

Anyone know any AZ players?

Former Spud turned good, El Hamadoui (sp?) and Moussa Dembele. They'll be tough, Koeman's sides are always a bitch for us to play.

Reckon this is our toughest game yet in the CL

No idea about injuries/if anyone is back etc so my team might be way off

Almunia

Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Gibbs

Cesc Song Rosicky

RVP Eduardo Arshavin

I reckon it'll be 2 in 2 out from the Brum game.

Clichy will be back, Vela will be available - Walcott will be out & Rosicky won't travel due to so mnay games for him.

Bendtner should be back for WHU, Eduardo, Nasri maybe Liverpool, leaving only two.

Will probably be:
Almunia
Sagna, Gallas, Vermalaen, Clichy
Ramsey, Song, Fabregas,
Arshavin, Van Persie, Vela

Mannone, Senderos, Gibbs, Eboue, Diaby, Wilshere, Merida (or Watt)

Was it Koeman who was in charge of PSV when they knocked us out a few seasons ago??

Rosicky will play...Eddie is not back for this one I don't think.

..............Mannone

Sagna...Gallas...Verm...CLichy

...............Song
......Ramsey.....Fabregas

....Arshavin.......Vela
.................RVP

Koeman it was

I hate him...he always has our number. Hopefully we destroy them.

He had England's too in 1994. Did Graham Taylor not like that.

I think his brother played against us too in Euro 88 & Italia 90.

AZ lost 3-2 to a 90th minute goal yesterday, only 6th in the league so should be able to keep it 100% & put the CC side out for the return game in a fortnight.

His brother was on the bench for Italia 90

No idea about Euro 88

How the fuck do you know that?

Cos i watched the game?

I hope Arsenal win.

Walcott, Rosicky, Bendtner, Fabianski, Denilson, Eduardo and Djourou all out.

Clichy returns.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/c...sicky-ruled-out

Rosicky out but will be OK for WestSpam, I doubt it is an injury but rather resting his fragile legs. Bendtner, Walcott and Eduardo are also out, suddenly we are short of strikers :doh:

We should start with,

-------------Almunia-----------

Sagna--Gallas--Vermaelan--Clichy

----Cesc----Song----Diaby----

-Eboue---Van Persie---Arshavin-


I prefer Merida or Wilshere (creativity) over Eboue but Wenger will opt for save option.

Bench;

Mannone
Senderos
Ramsey
Merida
Wilshere
Vela
Silvestre

Yeah I'm fairly sure that'll be the team. Can't see Vela or Wilshere starting

jesus..how come all of our striker are out?

I wouldn't start arshavin..the guy looked fucked on saturday and needs a break

I would play

-------------Almunia-----------

Sagna--Gallas--Vermaelan--Clichy

----Cesc----Song----Denilson----

-Eboue---Van Persie---Diaby/Vela-


Not a great lineup, but we are comfortably on top, so even a loss wouldn't be that bad.

If Vela, Ramsey and Wilshire are going to get any matches (aside from CC) this season, it should be those CL group matches...we are struck by injuries, so why not playing them? van Persie/Arshavin can't start every game

Denilson is out for ages. And I want us to play as strong a team as possible - qualify for the CL knockout as quickly as possible then we can think about bringing in the young fringe players with one or two games to spare and nothing really riding on them.

^ Denilson is out remember.

Vela SHOULD get a game ffs. European set up is closest he's gonna get to game and is probably best suited to his international games.

I think Eboue will start on top 3 (which is tupid considering he's pretty bad in final third - coming from deep he is very good though).

So Vela or Arshavin (rest?) on left or Vela or Eboue.

What a surprise Eduardo, Rosicky and Theo are out. Can't actually believe Diaby isn't?!!

Forgot about Denilson.


Still, I don't understand why Vela, Ramsey and Wilshire don't get any playing time this season? They should be good enough (with a good team aroudn them) against lesser opponents. Is Wenger overprotecting them? I don't see how not playing them at all (aside of 10 min. cameos) is going to help them, especially when we have to decide what we do with players like vela in the near future

I especially don't unterstand why Diaby gets game after game(aside from Saturday, he 's not been playing particularly well) and all our promising young players are merely spectators

We're still only 13 games in to the season with at least another 35 to go, I think it's far too early to make conclusions that Wenger is reticent to use them this season or that he is not helping them by not thrusting them in to situations they shouldn't really be expected to deal with at 18, 20 or 17.

Wenger is rightly playing what he thinks is the best team to wins the game at what is still the formative part of the season, plus it is worth stressing how young those players still are. They will get their chances, it just doesn't have to be so early on in the season - the three you mentioned will be involved in the FA Cup too but they probably shouldn't be involved in the CL unless it's a must whilst we're still not qualified despite some fans frustrations that they might be the better alternative to what we're seeing.

even though I think your opinions are mostly pure bollocks I always like the exchange of thoughts between us..well done, maccy

Rather than just stating they're pure bollocks you might want to explain why you've arrived at that feeling...

gosh, I just can't post serious 3 times in a row..that cost me dearly at redcafe :lol:

That'll be why most people think the same about yours then..

:ninja:

I mean I can see how I am clearly wrong with saying we'll have 35 more games to play this season.

:whistle:

haven't read your message, so couldn't comment..but yeah..you might wanna read my reply again (the one just before doofus brought in that strange-looking watch)

I did.

just one last question.

Am I doing enough in the good posting department for not being endangered of getting banned anytime soon? :unsure:

Apart from the new Arshavin spaffing thread, I guess so.

No

but your not endager of being banned unfortunatly

Yeah.. but you sir are in danger of being banned for posting crap music on What Are You Listening To Right Now? :D

yeah, since the game is already in the bag I think it's fair that we focus on insulting and offending from now on...




:doh:


People, if you want to argue about your music taste please do so somewhere else

Who's arguing?