Title: Robbie Keane reckons spuds have stronger squad
Description: Mr Loyal opens his big mouth
ralpheroo72 - October 28, 2009 11:33 AM (GMT)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...y.html?ITO=1490This guy is a joker, 10 games in and he is already on about the top 4! :haha:
Grebbo - October 28, 2009 11:37 AM (GMT)
The guy's clearly insane.
Injury Time - October 28, 2009 11:41 AM (GMT)
so hatrick for the heather seller then <_<
Marc Overmars - October 28, 2009 11:48 AM (GMT)
Michael Westen - October 28, 2009 12:06 PM (GMT)
Yeh it's mental to try and talk up your own team.
Who would do such a thing.
Oh.
Xaviola - October 28, 2009 12:07 PM (GMT)
:lol:
At least one of their players say this every single year. 'We're gonna finish in the top four this year. We're better than Arsenal this year. We'll win something this year.'
Makes it all the more funny when they eventually crash and burn.
Grebbo - October 28, 2009 12:15 PM (GMT)
They have got some good players tbf. I think only King would get in our team though. Gomes has the potential to be a much better keeper than any of ours but he's still a bit all over the place. Their midfield is crap so are their full backs. Strikers are decent but not better than RVP, Ed and Vela.
Marc Overmars - October 28, 2009 12:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Xaviola @ Oct 28 2009, 12:07 PM) |
:lol:
At least one of their players say this every single year. 'We're gonna finish in the top four this year. We're better than Arsenal this year. We'll win something this year.'
Makes it all the more funny when they eventually crash and burn. |
:goodpost:
I repeat, what a mentalist.
McNamara That Ghost... - October 28, 2009 12:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| 'The mentality around the club in previous seasons was that we would be happy to finish fifth, or qualify for the UEFA Cup, but there is a different feeling now. The players have the feeling that we want to get to the Champions League. |
Different to the last few years...really?
Xaviola - October 28, 2009 12:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Grebbo @ Oct 28 2009, 12:15 PM) |
| They have got some good players tbf. I think only King would get in our team though. Gomes has the potential to be a much better keeper than any of ours but he's still a bit all over the place. Their midfield is crap so are their full backs. Strikers are decent but not better than RVP, Ed and Vela. |
Palacios too but apart from that we are a fair bit stronger IMO. The trouble is keeping everyone fit but it seems they have the same problem.
Michael Westen - October 28, 2009 12:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Xaviola @ Oct 28 2009, 12:07 PM) |
:lol:
At least one of their players say this every single year. 'We're gonna finish in the top four this year. We're better than Arsenal this year. We'll win something this year.'
Makes it all the more funny when they eventually crash and burn. |
Your players/manager says the same about winning something, anything every year.
Maybe your lot should just shut up and lose in silence too?
Xaviola - October 28, 2009 12:39 PM (GMT)
Good point :doh:
Leave and let us laugh at spurs in peace!
Grebbo - October 28, 2009 12:49 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Xaviola @ Oct 28 2009, 12:35 PM) |
| QUOTE (Grebbo @ Oct 28 2009, 12:15 PM) | | They have got some good players tbf. I think only King would get in our team though. Gomes has the potential to be a much better keeper than any of ours but he's still a bit all over the place. Their midfield is crap so are their full backs. Strikers are decent but not better than RVP, Ed and Vela. |
Palacios too but apart from that we are a fair bit stronger IMO. The trouble is keeping everyone fit but it seems they have the same problem.
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Palacios has gone a bit off the boil by all accounts (he'll have a stormer on Saturday now)
He looked awesome for spuds because they've never had a decent DM ever. He now appears to be a bit of a clumsy player. He's probably on par with Song, maybe a little bit better.
Xaviola - October 28, 2009 01:51 PM (GMT)
I haven't seen him recently so I wouldn't know. As good as Song has been I would still definately have Palacios over him.
Like you said though, he wouldn't be that much of an improvement on Song an we have better players man for man all over the pitch and in our squad.
Arshavinslittlelegs - October 28, 2009 02:20 PM (GMT)
From what people who know him have said, Robbie Keane is an utter twunt, full of himself and all. Not out of place at the shit hole then :coffee: They really are small time.
Ach - October 28, 2009 06:02 PM (GMT)
We'll see at the end of the season
Jens' Face - October 31, 2009 03:57 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ach @ Oct 28 2009, 01:02 PM) |
| We'll see at the end of the season |
I expect we'll see a fair bit before that. St. Totteringham's day, for instance.
bergstar - October 31, 2009 06:51 AM (GMT)
I thing theres a fag paper difference between the two squads (thats cigarette papers for you jens)
Go through each department, there ain't a lot between them.
Jack Will Score - October 31, 2009 08:56 AM (GMT)
why have they not been a contender to us since 06 or the 10 years before then? :unsure:
Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) - October 31, 2009 09:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Oct 28 2009, 12:06 PM) |
Yeh it's mental to try and talk up your own team.
Who would do such a thing.
Oh. |
There's a difference between talking up your team and making ridiculous claims which are worthy of mocking.
And in our collective defence when Wenger has done the latter people on here have been equally scathing.
Get Bendtner - October 31, 2009 10:08 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Oct 28 2009, 12:06 PM) |
Yeh it's mental to try and talk up your own team.
Who would do such a thing.
Oh. |
Its ok as a one off, but you really shouldn't shout your mouth off every year. Maybe before the big talk, they should wait until they finish above us just once.
What I found particularly funny was where he reckoned Arsenal have had the edge over Spurs for the last 4 or 5 years!.
Get Bendtner - October 31, 2009 10:11 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bergstar @ Oct 31 2009, 06:51 AM) |
I thing theres a fag paper difference between the two squads (thats cigarette papers for you jens)
Go through each department, there ain't a lot between them. |
League tables seem to indicate that if it is a cigarette paper, it is the world's largest king size rizla.
JackTheLad19 - October 31, 2009 10:16 AM (GMT)
I know at the moment they believe more than they ever have and that's fair enough, but I just dont see it with them :unsure:
They seem to be flavour of the month for top4 but why? I really think our squad is miles ahead. Even Citeh have far more class in key areas than the Spuds.
Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) - October 31, 2009 10:19 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JackTheLad19 @ Oct 31 2009, 10:16 AM) |
I know at the moment they believe more than they ever have and that's fair enough, but I just dont see it with them :unsure:
They seem to be flavour of the month for top4 but why? I really think our squad is miles ahead. Even Citeh have far more class in key areas than the Spuds. |
They'll be top 6 I reckon but I still think there's a fair gap which over the course of the season will show.
Actually I think they've had a decent squad for a while but have buggered it all up with idiocy at board level.
Marc Overmars - October 31, 2009 10:30 AM (GMT)
This squad is better than the one Jol had when they nearly pipped us, they're on the right path again it pains me to say. When all is said and done I think the top 4 will have a familiar look to it but the race will be very open this year.
JackTheLad19 - October 31, 2009 10:31 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) @ Oct 31 2009, 10:19 AM) |
| QUOTE (JackTheLad19 @ Oct 31 2009, 10:16 AM) | I know at the moment they believe more than they ever have and that's fair enough, but I just dont see it with them :unsure:
They seem to be flavour of the month for top4 but why? I really think our squad is miles ahead. Even Citeh have far more class in key areas than the Spuds. |
They'll be top 6 I reckon but I still think there's a fair gap which over the course of the season will show.
Actually I think they've had a decent squad for a while but have buggered it all up with idiocy at board level.
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Hmm yeah decent squad but even in the Jol days they built it up to something it wasnt. Jol did extremely well with that lot until they got too big for their boots.
Even now it's pretty well balanced but doesn't even compare with City's squad imo
Top 6 is realistic enough, I'd go 7th but they really need to stop with the top4 stuff, it's the hope that kills them.
JackTheLad19 - October 31, 2009 02:52 PM (GMT)
How completely woeful were they?
Keane :doh:
The Wengerbabies - October 31, 2009 03:25 PM (GMT)
goonergeorge - October 31, 2009 05:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JackTheLad19 @ Oct 31 2009, 02:52 PM) |
How completely woeful were they?
Keane :doh: |
Really poor and they just caved in on themselves after the 2nd goal :lol:
The first was a sucker punch, the second was a headshot and the third was one for good measure :pal:
Jens' Face - October 31, 2009 07:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Get Bendtner @ Oct 31 2009, 05:11 AM) |
| QUOTE (bergstar @ Oct 31 2009, 06:51 AM) | I thing theres a fag paper difference between the two squads (thats cigarette papers for you jens)
Go through each department, there ain't a lot between them. |
League tables seem to indicate that if it is a cigarette paper, it is the world's largest king size rizla.
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even bigger than ones Alex Song uses to roll his spliffs :good:
Injury Time - October 31, 2009 08:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JackTheLad19 @ Oct 31 2009, 02:52 PM) |
How completely woeful were they?
Keane :doh: |
Keane subbed...get to the bench biatch...time to breakout the ROFLBROTHEL :pal:
ralpheroo72 - November 1, 2009 12:11 AM (GMT)
Desperate Dan made to look like an idiot now!! Subbed as well, absolute classic!! Spurs, always in our shadow!!! :title:
Get Bendtner - November 1, 2009 08:40 PM (GMT)
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Robbie Keane's boast that Tottenham were now the equal of Arsenal sounded like optimism gone mad even before they met at the Emirates. It had a ludicrous ring after Arsene Wenger's team delivered emphatic evidence of the gulf that still exists.
Keane had added time to consider his ill-judged elevation of Spurs' aspirations when he was removed early from an encounter that was 42 minutes of hard-fought north London derby combat and 48 minutes of one-sided Arsenal domination.
Nothing wrong with talking up your team, but Keane learned a harsh lesson that it is always best to talk big after first backing up your words with deeds.
Spurs failed to do that and the Emirates, unsurprisingly, battered Keane over the head with all the derision at its command when he was removed after 65 minutes.
The big surprise came as Spurs boss Harry Redknapp sat in the Arsenal media theatre and refused to believe the evidence of his own eyes, announcing: "There is no gap between the clubs in my opinion."
Arsenal celebrate their opening goal as Robbie Keane (left) looks on
Sorry Harry. You can make a compelling argument on most football matters, but no-one was swallowing this one.
Redknapp, in his defence, had a point when he claimed Spurs had the game under control for 42 minutes - but their pretensions at a top-four place (and consequently the argument propagated by Keane) is undermined by their tendency to then lose comfortably to the top teams.
Spurs have now conceded three goals in each of their meetings with Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal. Hardly a cause for crisis but evidence that Redknapp's renewal of Spurs still has some way to go.
Redknapp was also right when he suggested Arsenal's fans were turning on their team at the very point Spurs conceded, or to be more precise gifted, two goals.
There was some real old chuntering sweeping around the Emirates until Spurs lightened the mood by allowing Robin van Persie to score after the small matter of failing to switch on at a throw in, failing to defend a cross from Bakary Sagna, and then watching goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes make a lame attempt at a stop.
If this was not galling enough, Spurs then proved it was no fluke within seconds as Cesc Fabregas robbed Wilson Palacios from the kick-off and was almost given a guard of honour towards the goal to complete the formalities.
Game over. Arguments about equality dead in the water. Spurs have now failed to beat Arsenal in 20 league games and Keane may be well-advised to take a vow of silence before the return.
Van Persie's second, the result of more defensive dawdling after referee Mark Clattenburg's superb utilisation of the advantage rule, merely set the stage for an Emirates gloat-fest and an opportunity for Arsenal to indulge in a few passing party pieces.
The empty spaces in the visitors' section of the Emirates as the seconds ticked away told the tale of an afternoon that put the current state of Spurs in its true context. Moving forward, but steady on the hype - especially from their own players.
The strength of Spurs' squad in comparison to Arsenal was central to Keane's claims, but they could not cope without the pace afforded by Aaron Lennon, the suspended Jermain Defoe and the craft of Luka Modric. The trio would have made a serious difference to an attacking game plan that appeared to involve little more subtlety than utilising the height of Peter Crouch.
And the players introduced when Redknapp tried to make changes did not present a glowing advert for their strength on the margins, with Roman Pavlyuchenko and Gareth Bale contributing little.
It was a tough afternoon for David Bentley, restored to the side against his former club and exposed to the taunts of Arsenal's fans.
Cesc Fabregas scores Arsenal's second goal against Tottenham
He was by no means Spurs' worst performer, although he opened as if his shorts had caught fire on the way out of the tunnel, starting with a madcap deliberate handball, a wild tackle on Thomas Vermaelen and an ill-fated attempt to recreate his spectacular goal at Arsenal last season.
There remains a good player in there trying to get out. Whether this version of Bentley emerges at Spurs remains to be seen.
Tottenham are improving under Redknapp. They are perhaps not improving as fast as they think they are. Don't get me wrong - Spurs have a real chance of making the top five and Redknapp will no doubt make additions in January, but they are not as good a team as Arsenal and there is no shame in them admitting it.
Better times lie ahead for Spurs under Redknapp. At this stage of the redevelopment, though, they are not better than Arsenal.
Arsene Wenger was in buoyant mood, revelling in Arsenal's "serious" side and as proud of a clean sheet as he was about the goals.
Not all was well in Wenger's world, however, when his jacket went flying even with the reassurance of a 3-0 lead, explaining: "I couldn't communicate with the team because of the noise of the stadium. I'm not used to that."
Was that a lighthearted swipe at the inhabitants of the old Highbury "library"? Surely not.
Arsenal were not fluent, but Wenger is right to insist they can have genuine title ambitions in what is fast becoming a maverick Premier League season when it comes to results. Chelsea and Manchester United hold sway, but Arsenal are in the mix - make no mistake.
Wenger was also missing some gifted attacking talent such as Theo Walcott, Tomas Rosicky and with Samir Nasri on the bench as he makes his way back to full fitness.
And the jewel in Arsenal's crown is Fabregas, the grand manipulator of football matches, a master dictator of tempo and the man that makes it all happen.
Asked if there were many who could make matches march to his own beat like Fabregas, a smiling Wenger said: "No. That's why he plays for Arsenal. The first time we saw him play at 16 he had those certain things you cannot teach players."
Fabregas still has "those certain things" - and has added much more besides.
I asked Wenger whether the words from the Spurs camp provided an added incentive, but he said: "The good thing is football is about performance not opinion. Everybody can have an opinion, but what is important is what happens on the pitch.
"Robbie Keane cannot say they are worse than us because it's part of the preparation of the team, but it is about performance not opinion."
And the satisfied Wenger then departed, delighted that Arsenal's performance spoke more eloquently than any other opinion.
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CK's Korma - November 1, 2009 09:10 PM (GMT)
Good read.
It was great to plant some egg their face. Let them do the talking, we'll do ours on the pitch.
Get Bendtner - November 1, 2009 09:15 PM (GMT)
From the comments:
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19. At 11:22pm on 31 Oct 2009, Carmi88 wrote: ach, u could have commented on harry having a hissy fit when being interviewed, whiny little kid cos things never went his way :) good blog ;)
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Ach - November 1, 2009 09:17 PM (GMT)
The Wengerbabies - November 1, 2009 10:06 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Get Bendtner @ Nov 1 2009, 08:40 PM) |
Silence is golden.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/200...silence_is.html
A great read.
| QUOTE | Robbie Keane's boast that Tottenham were now the equal of Arsenal sounded like optimism gone mad even before they met at the Emirates. It had a ludicrous ring after Arsene Wenger's team delivered emphatic evidence of the gulf that still exists.
Keane had added time to consider his ill-judged elevation of Spurs' aspirations when he was removed early from an encounter that was 42 minutes of hard-fought north London derby combat and 48 minutes of one-sided Arsenal domination.
Nothing wrong with talking up your team, but Keane learned a harsh lesson that it is always best to talk big after first backing up your words with deeds.
Spurs failed to do that and the Emirates, unsurprisingly, battered Keane over the head with all the derision at its command when he was removed after 65 minutes.
The big surprise came as Spurs boss Harry Redknapp sat in the Arsenal media theatre and refused to believe the evidence of his own eyes, announcing: "There is no gap between the clubs in my opinion."
Arsenal celebrate their opening goal as Robbie Keane (left) looks on
Sorry Harry. You can make a compelling argument on most football matters, but no-one was swallowing this one.
Redknapp, in his defence, had a point when he claimed Spurs had the game under control for 42 minutes - but their pretensions at a top-four place (and consequently the argument propagated by Keane) is undermined by their tendency to then lose comfortably to the top teams.
Spurs have now conceded three goals in each of their meetings with Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal. Hardly a cause for crisis but evidence that Redknapp's renewal of Spurs still has some way to go.
Redknapp was also right when he suggested Arsenal's fans were turning on their team at the very point Spurs conceded, or to be more precise gifted, two goals.
There was some real old chuntering sweeping around the Emirates until Spurs lightened the mood by allowing Robin van Persie to score after the small matter of failing to switch on at a throw in, failing to defend a cross from Bakary Sagna, and then watching goalkeeper Heurelho Gomes make a lame attempt at a stop.
If this was not galling enough, Spurs then proved it was no fluke within seconds as Cesc Fabregas robbed Wilson Palacios from the kick-off and was almost given a guard of honour towards the goal to complete the formalities.
Game over. Arguments about equality dead in the water. Spurs have now failed to beat Arsenal in 20 league games and Keane may be well-advised to take a vow of silence before the return.
Van Persie's second, the result of more defensive dawdling after referee Mark Clattenburg's superb utilisation of the advantage rule, merely set the stage for an Emirates gloat-fest and an opportunity for Arsenal to indulge in a few passing party pieces.
The empty spaces in the visitors' section of the Emirates as the seconds ticked away told the tale of an afternoon that put the current state of Spurs in its true context. Moving forward, but steady on the hype - especially from their own players.
The strength of Spurs' squad in comparison to Arsenal was central to Keane's claims, but they could not cope without the pace afforded by Aaron Lennon, the suspended Jermain Defoe and the craft of Luka Modric. The trio would have made a serious difference to an attacking game plan that appeared to involve little more subtlety than utilising the height of Peter Crouch.
And the players introduced when Redknapp tried to make changes did not present a glowing advert for their strength on the margins, with Roman Pavlyuchenko and Gareth Bale contributing little.
It was a tough afternoon for David Bentley, restored to the side against his former club and exposed to the taunts of Arsenal's fans.
Cesc Fabregas scores Arsenal's second goal against Tottenham
He was by no means Spurs' worst performer, although he opened as if his shorts had caught fire on the way out of the tunnel, starting with a madcap deliberate handball, a wild tackle on Thomas Vermaelen and an ill-fated attempt to recreate his spectacular goal at Arsenal last season.
There remains a good player in there trying to get out. Whether this version of Bentley emerges at Spurs remains to be seen.
Tottenham are improving under Redknapp. They are perhaps not improving as fast as they think they are. Don't get me wrong - Spurs have a real chance of making the top five and Redknapp will no doubt make additions in January, but they are not as good a team as Arsenal and there is no shame in them admitting it.
Better times lie ahead for Spurs under Redknapp. At this stage of the redevelopment, though, they are not better than Arsenal.
Arsene Wenger was in buoyant mood, revelling in Arsenal's "serious" side and as proud of a clean sheet as he was about the goals.
Not all was well in Wenger's world, however, when his jacket went flying even with the reassurance of a 3-0 lead, explaining: "I couldn't communicate with the team because of the noise of the stadium. I'm not used to that."
Was that a lighthearted swipe at the inhabitants of the old Highbury "library"? Surely not.
Arsenal were not fluent, but Wenger is right to insist they can have genuine title ambitions in what is fast becoming a maverick Premier League season when it comes to results. Chelsea and Manchester United hold sway, but Arsenal are in the mix - make no mistake.
Wenger was also missing some gifted attacking talent such as Theo Walcott, Tomas Rosicky and with Samir Nasri on the bench as he makes his way back to full fitness.
And the jewel in Arsenal's crown is Fabregas, the grand manipulator of football matches, a master dictator of tempo and the man that makes it all happen.
Asked if there were many who could make matches march to his own beat like Fabregas, a smiling Wenger said: "No. That's why he plays for Arsenal. The first time we saw him play at 16 he had those certain things you cannot teach players."
Fabregas still has "those certain things" - and has added much more besides.
I asked Wenger whether the words from the Spurs camp provided an added incentive, but he said: "The good thing is football is about performance not opinion. Everybody can have an opinion, but what is important is what happens on the pitch.
"Robbie Keane cannot say they are worse than us because it's part of the preparation of the team, but it is about performance not opinion."
And the satisfied Wenger then departed, delighted that Arsenal's performance spoke more eloquently than any other opinion.
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Good read
Spurs :pal:
Keane :pal:
Redknapp :pal:
Little Miss Gooner - November 2, 2009 12:01 PM (GMT)
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...ack-Arsene.html"ARSENE WENGER today comes face to face with the man who provides possibly the biggest threat to his glittering 13-year career as Arsenal boss... Harry Redknapp.
The Gunners boss might have one of the safest jobs in football despite the fact he last guided his team to a trophy in 2005.
But nobody is indispensable, especially football managers. And if I was Wenger, I would keep half an eye on the remarkable job Redknapp is doing at the other end of the Seven Sisters Road. "
Read more:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport...l#ixzz0VhdKYPNUEl Tel :pal:
Nayan - November 2, 2009 12:29 PM (GMT)
'..if ya look at dhe bench we have, id is probbally a liddle bit stronger dhan dheir bench, dhough dheir cabinet is probbally a taincy bith beder than aurs to be sure' he told the Evening Standard.
Michael Westen - November 2, 2009 12:37 PM (GMT)
You lot still goin eh?
Who on earth would say they could/would win a game before they played it. You lot need every little scrap you can take eh?
It's funny.