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chrissie - October 30, 2009 05:17 PM (GMT)
I might need some over the weekend. Any volunteers? I realise it won't be until after tomorrows match.

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 05:21 PM (GMT)
LG is your best bet, but I'll give it a go (it's only been a few months, but I bet I've forgotten most of it...:lol:).

Lancastrian Gunner - October 30, 2009 05:32 PM (GMT)
What is it? Unseen translation, prose composition, comprehension, etc.?

chrissie - October 30, 2009 05:34 PM (GMT)
:D Thanks KK! Me too, just been a few more years.

It's genitive case. If you can work out the first one then I should be able to do the rest. There are eleven questions.

Underline the noun which is the genitive case and translate:

fur percuniam mercatoris abripuit.

The merchants had the money stolen by a thief.

The genitive?

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 05:34 PM (GMT)
Fuck prose comp. The bastard thing should die.

Lancastrian Gunner - October 30, 2009 05:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:34 PM)
Fuck prose comp. The bastard thing should die.

Aww, poor KK can't handle his sequence of tenses :hug:

chrissie - October 30, 2009 05:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lancastrian Gunner @ Oct 30 2009, 05:32 PM)
What is it? Unseen translation, prose composition, comprehension, etc.?

Stop getting posh with me. It's 11 questions on genitive case. :D

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 05:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (chrissie @ Oct 30 2009, 06:34 PM)
:D Thanks KK! Me too, just been a few more years.

It's genitive case. If you can work out the first one then I should be able to do the rest. There are eleven questions.

Underline the noun which is the genitive case and translate:

fur percuniam mercatoris abripuit.

The merchants had the money stolen by a thief.

The genitive?

The merchant is in the genitive. Because it is his money. whoever owns the accusative (pecuniam) goes into the genitive.

Lancastrian Gunner - October 30, 2009 05:37 PM (GMT)
mercatoris is genitive.

"pecuniam mercatoris" means "money of the merchant", since mercator is third declension, ie. "mercator, mercatoris"

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 05:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lancastrian Gunner @ Oct 30 2009, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:34 PM)
Fuck prose comp. The bastard thing should die.

Aww, poor KK can't handle his sequence of tenses :hug:

GTFO. I smashed that exam out of the park. It should die.

Lancastrian Gunner - October 30, 2009 05:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:37 PM)
QUOTE (Lancastrian Gunner @ Oct 30 2009, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:34 PM)
Fuck prose comp. The bastard thing should die.

Aww, poor KK can't handle his sequence of tenses :hug:

GTFO. I smashed that exam out of the park. It should die.

If you think Latin prose comp is bad, you should try Greek. It's... not pleasant.

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 05:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lancastrian Gunner @ Oct 30 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:37 PM)
QUOTE (Lancastrian Gunner @ Oct 30 2009, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:34 PM)
Fuck prose comp. The bastard thing should die.

Aww, poor KK can't handle his sequence of tenses :hug:

GTFO. I smashed that exam out of the park. It should die.

If you think Latin prose comp is bad, you should try Greek. It's... not pleasant.

:pal:

Have to do Medieval literature this year. The Gawain poet and Chaucer suck massive cock. But it's probably not as bad as prose composition into Greek.

Lancastrian Gunner - October 30, 2009 05:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:43 PM)
QUOTE (Lancastrian Gunner @ Oct 30 2009, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:37 PM)
QUOTE (Lancastrian Gunner @ Oct 30 2009, 06:35 PM)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 05:34 PM)
Fuck prose comp. The bastard thing should die.

Aww, poor KK can't handle his sequence of tenses :hug:

GTFO. I smashed that exam out of the park. It should die.

If you think Latin prose comp is bad, you should try Greek. It's... not pleasant.

:pal:

Have to do Medieval literature this year. The Gawain poet and Chaucer suck massive cock. But it's probably not as bad as prose composition into Greek.

I can still translate it and translate it well :coffee:

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 05:52 PM (GMT)
I expect nothing less tbh.

chrissie - October 30, 2009 05:55 PM (GMT)
Thanks guys!

I'm trying the next one, I promise I won't post all the eleven questions:

Iuvenis librum poetae legit.

The young men were rightly in the the library with the poets.

The genitive would be the poets?

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 06:02 PM (GMT)
i think legit means read/choose.

(1st declension)

Singular:

poeta (N)
poetam (ACC)
poetae (GEN)
poetae (DAT)
poeta (ABL)

Plural:

poetae
poetas
poetarum
poetis
poetis

The young man read the book of the poet. (?)

chrissie - October 30, 2009 06:07 PM (GMT)
Thanks KK that makes much more sense.

So the genitive would be the poet?

Sorry to turn your little grey cells on a Friday night but it is appreciated :hug:

Sameer Nasri - October 30, 2009 06:39 PM (GMT)
can we talk about maths or physics please...

Whatever - October 30, 2009 06:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (chrissie @ Oct 30 2009, 06:07 PM)
Thanks KK that makes much more sense.

So the genitive would be the poet?

Sorry to turn your little grey cells on a Friday night but it is appreciated :hug:

I hit a solid B for my latin certificate and I say: KK is right

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 06:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (chrissie @ Oct 30 2009, 07:07 PM)
Thanks KK that makes much more sense.

So the genitive would be the poet?

Sorry to turn your little grey cells on a Friday night but it is appreciated :hug:

Yep. Basically, if you have the Cambridge Latin Grammar book, it'll be easy. The declensions of the verbs are listed. It's a fantastic tool.

Whatever - October 30, 2009 06:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sameer Nasri @ Oct 30 2009, 06:39 PM)
can we talk about maths or physics please...

I'm studying for my diploma exam..so what do you wanna talk about? You can choose between atom physics, nuclear physics, particle physics and solid - state physics ?

Lancastrian Gunner - October 30, 2009 06:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 06:51 PM)
QUOTE (chrissie @ Oct 30 2009, 07:07 PM)
Thanks KK that makes much more sense.

So the genitive would be the poet?

Sorry to turn your little grey cells on a Friday night but it is appreciated  :hug:

Yep. Basically, if you have the Cambridge Latin Grammar book, it'll be easy. The declensions of the verbs are listed. It's a fantastic tool.

Kennedy's Latin Primer is where it's at, tbh.

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 06:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 07:51 PM)
QUOTE (chrissie @ Oct 30 2009, 07:07 PM)
Thanks KK that makes much more sense.

So the genitive would be the poet?

Sorry to turn your little grey cells on a Friday night but it is appreciated  :hug:

Yep. Basically, if you have the Cambridge Latin Grammar book, it'll be easy. The declensions of the verbs are listed. It's a fantastic tool.

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 06:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lancastrian Gunner @ Oct 30 2009, 07:55 PM)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 06:51 PM)
QUOTE (chrissie @ Oct 30 2009, 07:07 PM)
Thanks KK that makes much more sense.

So the genitive would be the poet?

Sorry to turn your little grey cells on a Friday night but it is appreciated  :hug:

Yep. Basically, if you have the Cambridge Latin Grammar book, it'll be easy. The declensions of the verbs are listed. It's a fantastic tool.

Kennedy's Latin Primer is where it's at, tbh.

Or that. :lol:

chrissie - October 30, 2009 07:03 PM (GMT)
High five to both of you and thanks :smooch: *in a non pervy kind of way*

Sameer Nasri - October 30, 2009 07:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Whatever @ Oct 30 2009, 06:53 PM)
QUOTE (Sameer Nasri @ Oct 30 2009, 06:39 PM)
can we talk about maths or physics please...

I'm studying for my diploma exam..so what do you wanna talk about? You can choose between atom physics, nuclear physics, particle physics and solid - state physics ?

let's talk about schrodinger's cat.

this is a question that made me :blink: when my teacher asked me.

do u think the ideas brought up about the thought experiment (schrodinger's cat) can be applied to the "if a tree falls in the middle of a forrest and nobody is around to here it, does it make a sound" puzzle?

Lancastrian Gunner - October 30, 2009 08:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sameer Nasri @ Oct 30 2009, 07:06 PM)
do u think the ideas brought up about the thought experiment can be applied to the "if a tree falls in the middle of a forrest and nobody is around to here it, did it really happen" puzzle?

Sounds like something that could be applied to Locke's theory of primary and secondary qualities or to Berkeley's theory of perception and existence :coffee:

Whatever - October 30, 2009 08:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sameer Nasri @ Oct 30 2009, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (Whatever @ Oct 30 2009, 06:53 PM)
QUOTE (Sameer Nasri @ Oct 30 2009, 06:39 PM)
can we talk about maths or physics please...

I'm studying for my diploma exam..so what do you wanna talk about? You can choose between atom physics, nuclear physics, particle physics and solid - state physics ?

let's talk about schrodinger's cat.

this is a question that made me :blink: when my teacher asked me.

do u think the ideas brought up about the thought experiment can be applied to the "if a tree falls in the middle of a forrest and nobody is around to here it, did it really happen" puzzle?

no, but haven't thought about it

Der_Kaiser - October 30, 2009 08:08 PM (GMT)
I thought the question concerning the tree in a forest with no-one around was 'did it make a sound?' instead of 'did it happen?'...:unsure:

Milla - October 30, 2009 08:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sameer Nasri @ Oct 30 2009, 07:39 PM)
can we talk about maths or physics please...

:goodpost:

Physics FTW

The Wengerbabies - October 30, 2009 08:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 08:08 PM)
I thought the question concerning the tree in a forest with no-one around was 'did it make a sound?' instead of 'did it happen?'...:unsure:

:goodpost:

And yes it does

Lancastrian Gunner - October 30, 2009 08:17 PM (GMT)
Locke might say that it makes no sound since "sound" is a secondary quality owing to its nature as vibrations in the air caused by something else. If there is nothing to perceive it, it makes no sound since it never is heard and thus remains as just vibrations in the air.

Sameer Nasri - October 30, 2009 08:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Der_Kaiser @ Oct 30 2009, 08:08 PM)
I thought the question concerning the tree in a forest with no-one around was 'did it make a sound?' instead of 'did it happen?'...:unsure:

my bad, i mean did it make a sound.




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