Title: So you think having a high IQ
Description: makes you smart?
Jack Will Score - November 3, 2009 07:25 AM (GMT)
PGFC - November 3, 2009 08:14 AM (GMT)
:good:
you intellectual pygmy
Theologooner - November 3, 2009 09:40 AM (GMT)
Meh. Psychologists reckon they have now identified 'multiple intelligences'. The traditional IQ test only measures one of them, so can't be used as a definitive statement of exactly how intelligent a person is.
:coffee:
LuvDeGooners - November 3, 2009 10:13 AM (GMT)
Well, people who can do long multiplication, remember shapes and figure the trickiest of riddles, might not be street savvy.
I mean, common sense and knowing how to play the game, and imagination could be considered better indications of intellegence than knowing the trickiest of Jack and Jill conundrums.
My IQ is in the top 10%, but it doesn't mean I'm more clever. It just tells you my brain works more efficiently in certain areas.
If the IQ test started covering artistic qualities, imagination and people skills, some of those mensa fucktards might just feel pretty stoopid.
Theologooner - November 3, 2009 10:50 AM (GMT)
Right. That's what's meant by multiple intelligences.
LuvDeGooners - November 3, 2009 10:51 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Theologooner @ Nov 3 2009, 11:50 AM) |
| Right. That's what's meant by multiple intelligences. |
I thought you meant aliens.
Theologooner - November 3, 2009 10:53 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (LuvDeGooners @ Nov 3 2009, 10:51 AM) |
| QUOTE (Theologooner @ Nov 3 2009, 11:50 AM) | | Right. That's what's meant by multiple intelligences. |
I thought you meant aliens.
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Them as well.
Michael Westen - November 3, 2009 10:58 AM (GMT)
The problem with IQ tests is that you can learn how to do them. So by definition, they cant be an objective test of intelligence.
Nasri Scoreng - November 3, 2009 11:01 AM (GMT)
I'd agree that common sense, good organisational skills and anlytical capability are underrated when it comes to determining intelligence.
PGFC - November 3, 2009 11:03 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 11:58 AM) |
| The problem with IQ tests is that you can learn how to do them. So by definition, they cant be an objective test of intelligence. |
Mmm, good point, but could anyone with an IQ of less than 125 really be arsed to?
PGFC - November 3, 2009 11:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Nasri Scoreng @ Nov 3 2009, 12:01 PM) |
| I'd agree that common sense, good organisational skills and anlytical capability are underrated when it comes to determining intelligence. |
Spelling skills too :good:
Theologooner - November 3, 2009 11:10 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:04 AM) |
| QUOTE (Nasri Scoreng @ Nov 3 2009, 12:01 PM) | | I'd agree that common sense, good organisational skills and anlytical capability are underrated when it comes to determining intelligence. |
Spelling skills too :good:
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And grammer, including how to use apostrophe's, which should of been taught in school's but aparently isnt.
Nasri Scoreng - November 3, 2009 11:13 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Theologooner @ Nov 3 2009, 11:10 AM) |
| QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:04 AM) | | QUOTE (Nasri Scoreng @ Nov 3 2009, 12:01 PM) | | I'd agree that common sense, good organisational skills and anlytical capability are underrated when it comes to determining intelligence. |
Spelling skills too :good:
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And grammer, including how to use apostrophe's, which should of been taught in school's but aparently isnt.
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...a joke, right? ;)
Michael Westen - November 3, 2009 11:20 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Nasri Scoreng @ Nov 3 2009, 11:13 AM) |
| QUOTE (Theologooner @ Nov 3 2009, 11:10 AM) | | QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:04 AM) | | QUOTE (Nasri Scoreng @ Nov 3 2009, 12:01 PM) | | I'd agree that common sense, good organisational skills and anlytical capability are underrated when it comes to determining intelligence. |
Spelling skills too :good:
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And grammer, including how to use apostrophe's, which should of been taught in school's but aparently isnt.
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...a joke, right? ;)
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Of course it was... as were the apostrophes...
LuvDeGooners - November 3, 2009 11:22 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 12:20 PM) |
| QUOTE (Nasri Scoreng @ Nov 3 2009, 11:13 AM) | | QUOTE (Theologooner @ Nov 3 2009, 11:10 AM) | | QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:04 AM) | | QUOTE (Nasri Scoreng @ Nov 3 2009, 12:01 PM) | | I'd agree that common sense, good organisational skills and anlytical capability are underrated when it comes to determining intelligence. |
Spelling skills too :good:
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And grammer, including how to use apostrophe's, which should of been taught in school's but aparently isnt.
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...a joke, right? ;)
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Of course it was... as were the apostrophes...
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...aparently
PGFC - November 3, 2009 11:29 AM (GMT)
Your all just :geek: snob's. and not a sub-Saharan African amongst you, racist bastards
St. Jimmy - November 3, 2009 11:32 AM (GMT)
Coney - November 3, 2009 12:46 PM (GMT)
Simples. Having a high IQ is a sign of one form of intelligence. But there are many forms of intelligence, so not having a high IQ does not mean you are unintelligent, just not high in that particular area.
It's like school. We all know fellow pupils who might have been shit at academic work but were by no means stupid.
IQ tests are a useful measure for certain things, but not a measure of everything.
Michael Westen - November 3, 2009 12:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:03 AM) |
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 11:58 AM) | | The problem with IQ tests is that you can learn how to do them. So by definition, they cant be an objective test of intelligence. |
Mmm, good point, but could anyone with an IQ of less than 125 really be arsed to?
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Possibly not.
Also, essentially, IQ tests are good for finding out who is good at taking IQ tests.
Coney - November 3, 2009 12:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 12:48 PM) |
| QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:03 AM) | | QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 11:58 AM) | | The problem with IQ tests is that you can learn how to do them. So by definition, they cant be an objective test of intelligence. |
Mmm, good point, but could anyone with an IQ of less than 125 really be arsed to?
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Possibly not.
Also, essentially, IQ tests are good for finding out who is good at taking IQ tests.
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The ability to learn how to do IQ tests is a sign of intelligence. :good:
Michael Westen - November 3, 2009 12:53 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Coney @ Nov 3 2009, 12:50 PM) |
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 12:48 PM) | | QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:03 AM) | | QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 11:58 AM) | | The problem with IQ tests is that you can learn how to do them. So by definition, they cant be an objective test of intelligence. |
Mmm, good point, but could anyone with an IQ of less than 125 really be arsed to?
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Possibly not.
Also, essentially, IQ tests are good for finding out who is good at taking IQ tests.
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The ability to learn how to do IQ tests is a sign of intelligence. :good:
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Yeh i know. Much like the ability to learn how to do anything is.
But those things, quite rightly, aren't used as objective tests of intelligence.
Which goes back to my original point.
Coney - November 3, 2009 12:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 12:53 PM) |
| QUOTE (Coney @ Nov 3 2009, 12:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 12:48 PM) | | QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:03 AM) | | QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 11:58 AM) | | The problem with IQ tests is that you can learn how to do them. So by definition, they cant be an objective test of intelligence. |
Mmm, good point, but could anyone with an IQ of less than 125 really be arsed to?
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Possibly not.
Also, essentially, IQ tests are good for finding out who is good at taking IQ tests.
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The ability to learn how to do IQ tests is a sign of intelligence. :good:
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Yeh i know. Much like the ability to learn how to do anything is.
But those things, quite rightly, aren't used as objective tests of intelligence.
Which goes back to my original point.
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Since everyone has the chance to do that, it is still objective. If people aren't smart enough to do some practice tests, then they are not intelligent enough and will score less. Those smart enough will do better - the more intelligent ones within that group of smarter people will score more, so the test is objective in measuring whatever it is IQ tests measure. :good:
PGFC - November 3, 2009 12:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 01:53 PM) |
| QUOTE (Coney @ Nov 3 2009, 12:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 12:48 PM) | | QUOTE (PGFC @ Nov 3 2009, 11:03 AM) | | QUOTE (Michael Westen @ Nov 3 2009, 11:58 AM) | | The problem with IQ tests is that you can learn how to do them. So by definition, they cant be an objective test of intelligence. |
Mmm, good point, but could anyone with an IQ of less than 125 really be arsed to?
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Possibly not.
Also, essentially, IQ tests are good for finding out who is good at taking IQ tests.
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The ability to learn how to do IQ tests is a sign of intelligence. :good:
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Yeh i know. Much like the ability to learn how to do anything is.
But those things, quite rightly, aren't used as objective tests of intelligence.
Which goes back to my original point.
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The truly intelligent would learn how to do them all then use that ability for gain.
Michael Westen - November 3, 2009 01:01 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Coney @ Nov 3 2009, 12:56 PM) |
Since everyone has the chance to do that, it is still objective. If people aren't smart enough to do some practice tests, then they are not intelligent enough and will score less. Those smart enough will do better - the more intelligent ones within that group of smarter people will score more, so the test is objective in measuring whatever it is IQ tests measure. :good: |
The chance to do something doesnt automatically equate to the desire.
So no. :good:
Whatever - November 3, 2009 01:14 PM (GMT)
last time i rolled a 90, therefore these tests are shite :fingers:
Nozza - November 3, 2009 01:26 PM (GMT)
Oi, geezers, only thick people believe what's written in the New Scientist...
I have a subscription to it...
Flava Flav - November 3, 2009 02:01 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (LuvDeGooners @ Nov 3 2009, 10:13 AM) |
| Well, people who can do long multiplication, remember shapes and figure the trickiest of riddles, might not be street savvy. |
this is true, i work with some of the most intelligent people there are, academically and most of them cant find there arsehole with a map
Michael Westen - November 3, 2009 02:09 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Flava Flav @ Nov 3 2009, 02:01 PM) |
| QUOTE (LuvDeGooners @ Nov 3 2009, 10:13 AM) | | Well, people who can do long multiplication, remember shapes and figure the trickiest of riddles, might not be street savvy. |
this is true, i work with some of the most intelligent people there are, academically and most of them cant find there arsehole with a map
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Is that becuase their arsehole didnt conform to the stringent topography requisites?
Nozza - November 3, 2009 02:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Flava Flav @ Nov 3 2009, 03:01 PM) |
| QUOTE (LuvDeGooners @ Nov 3 2009, 10:13 AM) | | Well, people who can do long multiplication, remember shapes and figure the trickiest of riddles, might not be street savvy. |
this is true, i work with some of the most intelligent people there are, academically and most of them cant find there arsehole with a map
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Oi, mush, is it because you are their boss and you've insisted on hot desking?...
Coney - November 3, 2009 04:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Flava Flav @ Nov 3 2009, 02:01 PM) |
| QUOTE (LuvDeGooners @ Nov 3 2009, 10:13 AM) | | Well, people who can do long multiplication, remember shapes and figure the trickiest of riddles, might not be street savvy. |
this is true, i work with some of the most intelligent people there are, academically and most of them cant find there arsehole with a map
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They can probably write 'their' though.
:run:
Jack Will Score - November 3, 2009 05:12 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Nozza @ Nov 3 2009, 01:26 PM) |
Oi, geezers, only thick people believe what's written in the New Scientist...
I have a subscription to it... |
I'll have you know it's credibility rating for published journal articles is higher than a tabloid :sulk: but only just