Richard Jones, 61 years old, IT consultant of Binfield near Bracknell, Berkshire; originally from Adrossan, Ayrshire. He was also an apprentice at an explosives factory in Ayrshire, most likely Nobel Energetics.

In this I'm assuming that the man pictured above was allowed to borrow Richard Jones' identity.

From the electoral roll there are two Richard Jones in Binfield; Richard R Jones (07-03-1944) at Fletcher Gardens and Richard L Jones at Munday Court.

A google search brings at least two candidates for either of the above. One working for SunGard and the other for 3M, both are based in Bracknell.

Peter Power and Richard Jones receiving their awards from this year's Business Continuity Awards.

Business Continuity Consultant of the Year


Lifetime Achievement


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The other Richard Jones who fits the profile is Richard L. Jones, Business Development Manager for 3M. He was a speaker at the LIBER 34th Annual Conference 2005 held at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands. The programme states that he was scheduled to give a talk on the 'role of new technology in deciding strategic direction' - mainly concerning RFID - on the morning of Thursday, 7th July 2005.

my, what a small world it is :o

I did a Tracesmart on Jones earlier this year. It showed Richard R Jones was age 62 in 2006, whereas Richard L Jones was 44, so I concluded that Richard R Jones of Fletcher Gardens was the bus eye witness. I wrote to him at that address, but received no reply (as documented on another thread somewhere).

Brilliant research amirrortotheenemy and cmain.

Jones & Power, Business Continuity eh?

So who is the man in the picture if he isn't Richard Jones? And why has he pretended to be Richard Jones?

Sungard and the BMJ:

Presumably Richmal Oates-Whitehead who worked for the BMJ would also have transferred to the Sungard facility.

Great research, folks.

It looks very much like Richard Jones should be included in the list of mendacious eye witnesses that includes Mark Whitby and Tony Larkin both of whom provided wildly off-the-mark accounts of Jean Charles de Menezes' execution.

For what it's worth (probably not a lot) I've encounted the name of SunGard before, via the blog logs, I just never got round to putting 2 and 2 together, as appears to have been done above.

Fantastic, damning research. Also, these pieces here sheds considerable doubt on Richard Jones' credibility as a witness:

http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Comm...ryToo/1037.html

http://london-bombs.blogspot.com/2005/07/h...omb-on-bus.html

Actually I'm confused. The man in the reports was 61 and Scottish - presumably he's the same guy as the Scottish explosives expert? Couldn't it just be a coincidence that there's another Richard Jones of Bracknell who knows Peter Power? I know it all looks very suspicious but I just want to get my head round all this (do try and keep up, Suspecta). :unsure:

The case study PDF says the BMJ staff were relocated to the "City Recovery Campus", which must be somewhere in the City of London from this.

But if the Richard Jones who worked for Sunguard and knew Peter Power was in Holland at the time, why couldn't it just have been the other, Scottish one? The BBC described him as Scottish and 61 which fits the description of the other one. Richard and Jones are both pretty common names after all....? Or have I completely missed something? :o

I don't think for a moment that Hasib was on the bus - Daniel's account bears this out and the 'eye-witness accounts' never added up anyway.

Suspecta

I started the thread because there were two Richard Jones' in Binfield. I was trying to narrow it down to one of the two, when I came across Richard L Jones in Holland an IT consultant and who had an alibi for the 7th July for being away from London. So I thought I was onto something, it wasn't until cmain posted the ages of the two that I knew it couldn't of been his profile quoted in the press reports.

It is a more than odd coincidence that the only Richard Jones' based in Bracknell are both IT consultants and were in some way connected with the 7th July attacks.

It's also strange that they've given out fairly detailed info on unreliable/planted witnesses such as Larkin and Jones making them traceable and unable to completely disappear into obscurity.

But the one quoted in the reports was the older one:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/4663853.stm

The picture in the article is of the older guy, so I don't understand why it makes any difference that another guy of the same name worked for Sunguard, was in Holland on the day of the bombings and knew Peter Power. It's a chilling coincidence but that could be all it is, unfortunately.

The Richard Jones in Holland was the younger of the two, so that eliminates him. The only other Richard Jones from Bracknell is the Sungard/Peter Power one.

The same article as a PDF. As a result of 7/7, the BMJ acquired an additional 13 seats in Sungard's City location, bringing the total number of seats to 40.

Sungard do Sainsbury's and assist their Business Continuity Management Team (BCMT) too:

Sorry to take up time trying to work this out. I get it now - the Richard Jones who says he was on the bus is the Sunguard/Peter Power one because the other one was away.

Only one bit of confusion remains - the one in the BBC report has conventional, short, rather bushy grey hair. The one in the picture with Peter Power has longer, brown, somewhat thinning hair (plus a grey beard but no matter). Their faces do look similar but as the business photo was taken in 2006 how can he have gone from grey to dark? Unless he dyed his hair in the meantime, I suppose? After all, how many 61-year-olds have naturally dark hair? Also, he could have dyed his hair for the photograph with Peter Power to help allay any potential suspicions about his connections with the mysterious Mr Power....

Surely if they'd used a picture of anyone else, like the other Richard Jones, for the BBC photo, the other Richard Jones and his friends and family would have been up in arms?

Whatever, he's got to be a planted liar, because how many people actually get off London buses and walk just because somebody is annoying them by merely rummaging around in a bag? Surely you stay on a bus whatever - sitting next to piss-stained tramps, screaming babies, scrapping teenagers - because you want to get to your destination?

And what better place to get a planted liar from than the very organisation that took over afterwards, with its clean and clear links to Peter Power. Shiver. And no wonder Jones chooses not to repond to emails.

I think we're in danger of getting carried away here and suspecta is right to be cautious.

There are only 2 Richard Jones in Binfield, but my Tracesmart lists 71 in Berkshire, all of whom could easily commute to Sungard in Bracknell. It is possible that the Fletcher Gardens Jones (the one who matches the profile) is the Sungard one, and the familiar picture of the white haired Jones on the BBC web site and elsewhere is actually of somebody else (ie the man with the beard is the real 61 year old Scottish Jones), but we don't have conclusive proof of this, and it is possible that the bearded Jones is one of the 69 others in Berkshire but not in Binfield.

I had a very rare Saturday with no wife or children today, so guess where I went, to do a bit of surveillance in Fletcher Gardens to try to obtain that conclusive proof. I failed. The only people I saw at the house were a woman aged 40-50 and a boy aged 10-15. Possibly they were only visiting, but I think they lived there because one of the bedrooms was clearly a child's bedroom. Could be Mr Jones married someone quite a bit younger, or could be that he has moved house in the last year and someone unconnected lives there now. I didn't have the courage just to knock on the door and ask.

Even if bearded Sungard Jones is not the same as the bus eye witness Jones, we have established a link between Richmal Oates-Whitehead and Peter Power which is important in its own right.

I picked up a couple of local newspapers, and have tried searching the archives of the corresponding web sites.

The Bracknell and Ascot Times has nothing for either Sungard or Richard Jones.

The Bracknell News has nothing for Sungard and one item on Richard Jones which reads more like a cut and paste of articles in the national media than an original article, and which has no accompanying photograph:

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Daniel Obachike on Richard Jones.

This is not the same clip of the girl being interviewed - It's at a different stage in the interview. Watch the people in the background and not the woman being interviewed. Focusing on the woman will only confuse even further as her voice and tape have been speeded up.

The same video at normal speed

http://atvs.vg.no/player/index.php?id=1496
mms://video.vg.no/vg/video2005/storage/compressed/1496/wm_56.wmv

Thanks for finding that.

Well it does look like Richard Jones. The pink shirt the man's wearing is a further clue.

Jones is wearing a pink shirt in this clip.

http://www.itnsource.com/archivedata/Media...-73635-2058.mov

Perhaps what we're seeing is Richard Jones on his way to catch the Number 30 bus at Euston, hence why he's in the area?

Is there anyway of telling what time the film was taken?

Paul

There seems to me a possiblity that Jones could have made it to Euston bus terminal in order to catch the number 30. The timing of the film with him in the background would be very helpful. Interestingly, if this is Jones walking in the background then his story about getting off just before the bus explosion has a ring of truth about it - you wouldn't stay on a bus now going through the area you've just come from, would you?

A few screen grabs showing the Richard Jones player walking past the lady being interviewed:







Just for the record, in Daniel's original post about Richard Jones there was a broken link to the J7 Russell Square thread so I emailed him the correct URL. The link has since been removed entirely!

A few observations:

The man's facial features are all consistant with the picture of Richard Jones and the ITN source clip. Although it looks to me like the parting in his hair is on the opposite side. The shirt collars are all very similar.

He also appears to fiddle with something on his belt.

The direction he is walking in is away from Euston station.

Huh? Is this organised confusion time?.

Probably not your fault , J7 has been infiltrated by theorists and government desktop types stirring seeds of doubt.

The woman in the foreground is all the timing you need.
If she got out of the train before the power to the tracks was turned off she would have been electricuted!

It took 30 minutes.
See your arch nemesis Rachel in her urban 75 blog - (before she got famous)
(Pssst Bridget, She changes it in her updated blogspot, to 10-20 mins, very sus)

P:S I read her book's first 4 chapters. Kinda cutesy

From the Piccadilly Line Duty Operations Manager's Incident Report:

There were only three guys who broke out of the back of the train when the track was live. Another group of passengers broke out of the middle of train and went through the crossover to the eastbound platform.

Note also that 9 passengers got out via Russell Square and arrived BTP HQ (in Tavistock Place?) by 9.09. RN's 20 minutes is plausible.

It is true though that generally passengers in the rear 5 cars did not take the opportunity to leave because they were afraid of electrocution.

Certainly looks like Richard Jones to me. As for his hair parting, he's obviously got a touch of the David Cameron's.

A point worth noting.

Presumably electrocution would only occur if contact was made with the live third rail:

More on London Underground rail electrification here.

Given that the timing appears to be a crucial aspect of supporting the conclusion being made here, a definitive confirmation of the timings would be useful.

Empirically, however, after nigh-on two years of research, definitively establishing anything about what actually happened on 7th July 2005 is far from easy, hence the J7 calls for the release of the evidence and a full, independent public inquiry outside the scope of the Public Inquiries Cover-Up Bill Inquiries Act 2005. But then that is the whole point of a psyop, isn't it?

When on the Underground, be aware of the fourth rail also.

Cappa,

This is certainly not 'organised confusion time'. I am genuine and sincere in all my posts and comments on this forum. Organising confusion is not my intention as I seek to make some sense of a terrible day.

Probably not my fault? There is no 'probably' about it.

Infiltration? I trust my judgement and J7 is providing a very real service to the people of this country.

Confirmation of timing is not an unreasonable request.

I personally do not consider Rachel North an arch nemesis. Just for the record I have never knowingly met or communicated with Rachel North in any form.

Like Rachel, Daniel's contributions are also playing an important part in this unfolding process.

Paul

I've found a large picture for Sungard's Richard Jones. They compare quite well apart from around the eyes and the eyebrows, maybe the nose is a little bigger as well.



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Does anyone have a good quality video capture or photo for Richard Jones the bus witness?

I only know of this little one, amtte:

SunGard gets a mention here:

The 4th bomb

Another Richard Jones but this time involved with ICTS via MUSC (which also provides the handy disposal of ordinance and IEDs).

Not a lot of information about him that I can find - anyone else?

Richard Llewelyn Philip Jones, born in 1942 and has an address in the borough of Camden.

Hi Bridgit, I once lived in the lower end of Marchmont street, & I could walk to my work place by the Mornington Crescent tube in about 20mins. If he hopped into a cab he could have made it easily.
Where was this Richard Jones' office where he said he was late getting to. He could have caught a cab if he was concerned about being late.

Direct link:
http://www.bma.org.uk/ap.nsf/Content/LIBRe...eEnquiryService

Like Suspecta, I'm having difficulty keeping up with the Joneses, but it seems that one of them has been in that same post since 2004:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041212224611/...eEnquiryService

There's a lot of them about. Richard Jones of EC Harris:

EC Harris have offices in Lynton House (parts of which were used to treat the injured after the number 30 bus explosion) and may well have been the employer of Beverli Rhodes at the time of 7th July 2005 who forbade staff from talking to the press or police, if Ms Rhodes statement to the GLA 7 July Review Committee is anything to go by.