Well yeah, guess I'll make a new topic about it. Considering Capcom is quite serious in this department as well.

Anyway, they are currently making a 3rd DCD arc. Yeah, the third. For those who don't know...
1st: Kawanakajima
2nd: Odawara -> Anegawa/Mikatagahara -> Honnouji

And now they are going to start the 3rd arc.
http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/1212048_1124.html
The background is the 'Battle of Inland Sea" (Chousokabe vs. Mouri). This time the main characters will be the Maeda family (Keiji, Toshiie, Matsu). Glad they finally get the spotlight here, and w00t at the two Motos appearing as well!

Short preview: The Mouri invaded Maeda's fief, then the Maeda plans to evacuate to Shikoku to seek help from the Chousokabe.


And speaking of Drama CDs, does anyone here know the link to download the Honnouji DCD?

OH!! ^_^ the drama CDs ermmm :wacko: don't know a lot about them i think i have one (where yukimura and sasuke try to ambush kenshin, kasuga interrupts *good girl ;) *) but looking at the pictures i can only tell whats vaguely going on (its all in Japanese :( ) but i love it tho even if i can't under stand it but the one your talking about with the maeda family i'm really looking forward to (there my fav default team in Basara)

Great news. Even if the SB series lack continuity in its multiple plotlines (the mangas depict a storyline different from that of the games and the CD dramas), I've always considered the dramas to be the first "canon source" of information, for they feature the more character and plot development you're going to see in the SB universe.

...And, well, even if I don't like Keiji that much, I suppose listening to the Maeda clan (they're so much of a craze of a family) is enough reason to get these new CD dramas (once they're released, that's it). But I'll definitely be looking forward to it because of Motonari Mouri and Motochika Chousokabe; yes, it's time for them to be getting more of a spotlight in the saga.

As per your question... I'm also looking for the Honnouji CD drama. I suppose nobody has ripped it and uploaded it to the net yet...

Yay! Matsu and Toshii! :D

And yeah, it's good that it seems that Yukimura and Masamune may get background detail this time. I like those two as much as the next standard fan, but BASARA is full of other characters that deserve some time, as well. Even if I don't exactly look forward to the notion of Motonari possibly dying in this canon...

...! I've been waiting for this... ...I finally Got you! XD

Yan Wei says hi to you. (-.-)/

......
anyway, if anyone don't know yet, Hideyoshi and Hanbei will be in the latest DCD as well. Remember that this is a new arc, so *SPOILERS* their death in Odawara should be disregarded.

Uh, Scyllua then says hello to you as well, I suppose :unsure:...? (Sorry, I have the dumb, I can't brain very well in this moment.)

I didn't know. So, yay, continuity, but what's that in the SB universe...!

Heh, gotta love the BASARA-verse. The only way you could really hope to make sense out of the "storyline" of the series, is to pretty much look at it in the same way that DC Comics' old "HyperTime" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertime) concept worked.

In essence, pretty much anything that happens in story arcs contained within the games, the manga, the drama cds and etc. are basically all true, because they're all remote possibilities of how things could have transpired.

I suppose the only thing that really needs to be done is for Capcom to approve of an OVA or whatever, so that we can have yet ANOTHER storyline arc to follow, which would merely offer yet ANOTHER possibility of what could happen to our favorite guys and girls...

That's so true. Everything would be "canon" because it's official material approved by CAPCOM... But that's exactly the problem I have with continuity in the SB university. More of the discussion is solved by stating that "in the first drama, this happened" and "we see in the manga that...", though; that's it, by citing the different sources.

I suppose that, after two manga versions (and lots of anthologies), a novel, and the CD dramas, SB is only missing an animated version to have the complete "Japanese merchandise set, as stated by Japanese market strategy guidelines" (now it's even a game... with a spin-off game).

So, yeah. We're missing a short series or OVA to tell yet another version of the story. We can see Nobunaga burning in Honnouji, Hideyoshi vanquished by the occasional SB hero, and Masamune and Yukimura having their decisive duel for the one zillion time. As long as the animation isn't by the same studio in charge of the SB2Heroes' sequences...

It's because you write Motochika's name, in a wrong way.

Though it doesn't really enforced in game forums, but BK will be very hate if someone write Motochika's name in a wrong way :P

ねえ~? 部元親...長宗我....

Anyway, I'm thinking about re-upload those Old Drama CD links. Which one do you prefer?
Mediafire? Savefile?



And if Scyllua gives me her permission, I'd put the link to SenBasa visual & sound book that she uploaded :lol:
We finally get a chance to see Masamune & Motochika (not the usual MasaYuki) working together to defeat......Him! XD

save file please!!! shizu!!!!!!!!! :lol: plz plz plz plz

Oh, I understand now. Well, I don't think it's the "wrong way"... Though I did read a comment by BlackKite in which he explained there was a rule about Japanese names that predate the Meiji Era to be written last name - first name.

...I'm accustomed to write Japanese names western styles because of what I consider it's "consistency" in a text; since it's other names will be given in this western style, I write Japanese names this way to avoid confusion (it's sort of a convention among translators; I study translation). I understand, however, about the rule BlackKite mentioned and I have to say I pretty much agree with it... But this is SB, a videogame without pretensions of being historical in the least. And, besides, I see that many people have trouble differentiating the characters' last names from their first names, so I think using the wester style when giving names would make it easier for those who aren't familiar with the Japanese language.

Of course I don't mind.

In fact, I'd like to provide some "extra" links to the CD dramas I have in my Mediafire account (so you can make a post with all compiled links into a single place, which I think would be more practical).

CD Drama 1 - Sengoku Basara Shukumei Kawanakajima no Tatakai

CD Drama 2 - Sengoku Basara 2: Hyakka Ryouran Odawara No Eki

CD Drama 3 - Sengoku Basara 2: Soukyuu! Anegawa No Tatakai

CD Drama 4 - Sengoku Basara 2: Guren! Mikatagahara No Tatakai, ripped into a single file.

Mini CD Drama centering in Yukimura and Sasuke; this came with the Sengoku Basara 2 Visual and Sound Book. Ripped in wma format, sorry.

Mini CD Drama - Cool and the Gang, an audio verison of the novel; it's included in the Sengoku Basara 2 Visual and Sound Book 2.

Save for the two last files, I didn't rip the rest, but leeched off the net. Hope the original uploaders don't mind it... And the first 3 CD dramas are uploaded as individual files. Sorry for the extra hassle to download.

Again though, I don't think the issue is really about it making so much "sense". Then again, I used to be an avid reader of American comics, so I'm more or less immune to crazy multiverses and such. Though, if Superboy-Prime is the reason why Ieyasu gets kidnapped a lot, I think Neo Juste will flip. :D

But again, the best way I could put it would be to pretty much put it in the context as follows: everything that is generated as being canon to the BASARA-verse is really an "alternate universe" of some sort. Everything included in those realities is valid, and can be used as a means to help understand why things may work as they do in the BASARA-verse. But in the end, each path holds its in own story that is told in its own way, and may end up with a number of characters getting comeuppance in those realities.

It's the only way you could hope to explain why Masamune can meet an untimely demise at Yukimura's hands on one story line, but could just as easily return the favor in his own. Or, why Sasuke and Kasuga were the ones who ended up doing the deed at Honnouji, instead of Mitsuhide. Or Itsuki, after she had to take on a tag-team of Noh-Hime and Ranmaru. And on, and on, and on...

Honestly, I think the only times we may stand to get a few stories that will be "bar-none" canon, will be through a few of these upcoming Gaiden stories in Heroes. We're supposedly going to see how Keiji, Hanbei and Hideyoshi had their falling out in the Keiji gaiden. That's probably going to be canonical, and something that will be unalterable. Maybe Kojuro's story, and the gaidens of Kotaro Fuuma, Motochika and the main dude's Gaidens will have a ring of truth, as well. But I think that Capcom probably won't have too many of these, because otherwise, it just limits their ability to be able to tell as many diverse storylines as they damn well please.

After all, how else could we get stories like "Super Sexy Shoujo Matsu's quest to feed her boys", otherwise? :D

Honestly, I think that they would probably be more conservative with an OVA, as opposed to the manga and OSTs, where characters can bite it at the drop of a hat, and pretty much no one is safe unless your name is "Masamune", "Yukimura" and maybe "Keiji".

My guess? An OVA would probably be the best opportunity to either tell/re-tell some more backstories, or to tell a more original, epic storyline that would be more in the vein of "Musou Orochi", where the characters would some how have to drop everything and band together for a larger scale threat. That way, everyone's favorites get an opportunity to look good, and no one would necessarily have to die (unless it was to make them more poignant).

In other words, pretty much like a number of Capcom's other anime tie-ins.

...Just nothing like Street Fighter V, Capcom, for the love of all that's good. The obvious yaoi in-jokes between Ken and Ryu were already BAD ENOUGH without that series doing more to egg people on! Don't give the YukiMasa fans more fuel!

Oh, you like reading comics! My respects to you. I like comics, too, but most of the time I can't stand the many multiverses, alternate stories and crossovers, not to mention the fact that a comic (especially one which has been in the market for a long time) is "handled" by several authors in its lifespan, and more often than not each of them have a particular view on the story.

I don't consider SB to have a multiverse of its own... For me, it's just CAPCOM and its usual lack of continuity when it comes to its games. It doesn't bother me that much, actually, but for me problems arise when you're discussing about the different storylines and "focuses" to the SB universe. For instance, I think the Sengoku BASARA 2 manga closely follows the story as seen in the game while not retelling the same plot, but the Ranse Ranbu takes many more "liberties" with the storyline because, frankly, SB1 didn't have much of a backbone plot to begin with - and therefore, the author enjoyed more creative licenses when writing the manga. In some discussions with fellow fangirls (ahem), we argue that the character of Yukimura in theRanse Ranbu is somehow different from what we see of him in SB1 (he's rather serious, different from the incredibly noisy fanboy he's in the first game). It's just another canon interpretation of him, as seen by a certain author that probably decided to focus the character in a slightly but noticeably different way.

Speaking of which... The Devil May Cry anime just came and went without exciting the fans pretty much, and I've read a series based on Resident Evil is being scheduled for next year. May it be that CAPCOM decides to give some other of its popular games the animation treatment...

Don't count on this. I can tell you that fangirls can work out a yaoi pairing from practically nothing at all; we don't need "hints" to see the yaoi potential in a pairing, so... I'd say that as long as at least two male characters are making appearances in scene, you're most likely to see someone out there in the fandom trying to pair them up. I mean, the Mitsuhide x Masamune pairing is fairly popular in the SB Japanese fandom, and the only "canon interaction" I remember of the two takes place in the third CD drama. Isn't the premise of Mitsuhide trying to kill Masamune a very romantic and pairable one? Well, the fangirls think it is. Bear with us fangirls, please. I know we can be so annoying sometimes, but...

Well...keyword being "used to". After the 90s (basically, around the Spider-man clone saga), I more or less stopped reading comics...especially after said named saga. I sometimes will dip in and out for a really well done book like "Kingdom Come" and some of the other DC Elseworlds, but by and large, the predominant way I get my exposure to comic book heroes now a days is through video games and movies. ^^

I don't quite see it the same way.

See, the difference between BASARA, and a number of Capcom's other series (which have problems with story-telling), is that, instead of trying to basically have one singular storyline, it's basically more of a thing of how there are multiple stories to be told, and throughout the series' numerous characters and side-plots, all of them can stand to be told.

Thus, the basis behind the "multiverse" theory. Everything is basically true, in its own way.

And to me, it's a much better way of doing things, as opposed to having it be like Street Fighter all over again, where everybody else besides the main characters and their direct antagonists are of little consequence.

I think it would be high time. I can't imagine Biohazard/RE fairing that much better than DMC, in a number of ways, but BASARA is basically right up there with the likes of Monster Hunter and Rockman, as far as wide-spread, enduring appeal goes. And with at least ONE more game too look forward to in the near future (SBX for the arcades), I would think the time for a marketing campaign blitzkrieg would be now.

Don't get me wrong. It's not like I hate you guys and all that jazz. Hell, sometimes I think that certain pairings can be damn hilarious, if conveyed correctly and with enough vigor by its fans.

It's just that when the companies themselves practically are borderline supporting it, is when it can get on my nerves, some times. SF V is such a thing. They took a Ryu (who was ALREADY quite OoC) and Ken, and just made them even more "butt-buddies" than before. We get it. There's a lot of material that could support how the "uppercut brothers" could be "more than friends". A lot of us have been either supporting it, or making jokes about it for years before the anime raised its head ("Hadouke" = "I DO KEN!"). I didn't need an anime to try and be like a dork at a party and try to be "in on the joke".

....And really...there's a pairing on Masamune and Mitsuhide? Good grief! They really WILL make a pairing out of anything, now will they? *gives off a Nobunaga-style laugh* :D

ZEHI MO NASHI!!!

I've been a fan of X-Men since forever, but my favorite titles were published by Top Cow and Wildstorm. I used to read comics as well, until I got rather hooked by manga instead - because mangas were easier to find and get in my country. Anyway, I pay my respects to anyone who has the patience to follow comics and all of their alternate storylines and multiverses; I wouldn't be able to. That's the main reason I never got interested in titles such as Spiderman, for instance.

Well... I think I understand your point, and agree with it. Sengoku BASARA is the closest possible to a fighting game in my opinion, and in this kind of game each character has her or his own storyline and ending, and in a sense, all plots featured are equally "true" (that's it, that every character has his/her chance to fight the final boss and defeat him - but, as you said, for the most part the stories to be taken into consideration as "officials" tend to be the main characters' only).

But it's just... I'm a bit biased towards the way CAPCOM is managing the SB (multiple) storylines. For some reason, I don't appreciate the way CAPCOM "kills" characters and then revive them for the next installment of the manga, CD drama or the game itself (I think we should count how many times Nobunaga Oda has died and come back for the next round). True, characters like Bison (hmm, Vega in the original Japanese game, right?) went through the entire Street Fighter II saga being killed again and again as the baddest villain to be defeated, and Wesker will keep on appearing and reappearing in the Resident Evil series in spite of his deaths and mutations and, well, we players don't mind or care too much. But for some reason as I said earlier, I'd like to see CAPCOM bringing a little more of continuity to the SB series.

It's good to hear that. I know some people who really think the world would be a better place without fangirls, and I can't really blame them. For I know some real annoying fangirls the world would definetely do without...

And now I can say I do understand you. Fandom is one thing, but when it comes from your "canon source"... I didn't like that anime series because, as you've pointed out, the characters felt too OOC already, and more often than not the storyline had hardly anything to do with the original game. BUT - all those yaoi hints were too much from CAPCOM's part. Too much fanservice, in my opinion, and take into consideration that I'm a yaoi fan.

And it's a fairly popular pairing in the Japanese fandom. But, really, in SB you can pair up practically any character and it's more likely it won't feel that much crackish... I'm just trying to remember what the crackiest/weirdest pairing freaked out the more in the SB fandom, but I can't made my mind on one - it must be that I tried to delete that from my mind as soon as I saw it. Anyway, even if I think the fandoms are out there for people to produce fanworks as they please (I swear, some of these days I have to sit down and try to write that Hanbei x Kotarou crackish pairing I've been thinking of for weeks already), there are pairings such as a certain Hideyoshi x Ranmaru one I once saw that are too much for my tastes. It's just... shotacon, just no.

If you excuse my ignorance, what does this phrase mean? Just curious about it.

That's Nobunaga's catchphrase. Its rough translation is 'There is no certainity.' :)

Thanks for the input. Nobunaga is one of the SB characters I never paid attention to...

Because Capcom always potrays him as an irredeemable bastard. Poor Ichi experienced it in her Story Mode.

Speaking of Drama CDs, they seem to be hinting that there could be other relationship between Masamune and Oichi. Otherwise, why would they add up both of them meeting in a dream or something (even though they don't know what the hell it meant to them)... Speaking of that, does anybody here know the stuff happening in the Honnoji arc?

And are they taking it from the Drama CD that in SB2H Oichi's Story, Nagamasa is OHKO'd again?

He's one of my favourite character. At least he makes oichi's storyline much more interesting. Luv the shotgun.

Because he's pretty uninteresting to me. He's not exactly a character made of monolithic evil in my opinion, but I do feel he lacks other shades/sides to his personality to make him appealing.

I wouldn't say they're hinting to a relationship between the two of them... It's just more like Masamune being his sympathetic self (remember the little interaction he has with Itsuki in both SB2 and the Ranse Ranbu manga). Masamune decides to take a stroll by the side of a river (the Anegawa River, prior to the battle in this location) and meets Oichi, who's lamenting that "everyone is going to die because of his older brother", and that's also her fault. So he listens to her and basically tells her to seize a dream, for she says she doesn't know if she actually has one (as in, a goal or purpose to achieve or follow).

Hmmm, spoilers for the end of the third drama...

So after Masamune spares Nagamasa's life because of Oichi's intervention and both Naga and her are left alone, she decides that her dream is for Nagamasa to live. Right after that, Nobunaga shows up and kills Nagamasa, taking Oichi away - so I think this is enough of a reason for Masamune to decide to go after Nobunaga for a little showdown. In other words (and in my opinion), the CD drama isn't as much hinting at a relationship between Masamune and Ocihi as it's stating a personal reason for Masa to fight Nobunaga at Honnouji. It's pretty much the same with Yukimura, who also goes after Nobunaga after Mitsuhide seriously wounds Shingen at the end of the fourth drama.

So, let's say it's just CAPCOM throwing some "personal reasons" for the heroes of this story to show up at Honnouji (since history itself doesn't have much of a word to say in here).

...I'm still looking for the fifth drama (if you're referring to it), but it seems it can't be found online for the time being...

And about your second question, well, I think it's CAPCOM recycling some ideas. I've never had them as highly original in their storylines, even if I love their games.

...Thanks to my internet connecting hating me more than usual today, I just finished uploading these to my Mediafire account.

Another forum user was kind enough to direct me to the fifth drama, Shikoku! Honnouji no Hen. Curiously enough, it'd been uploaded in a BL (yaoi) CD drama forum; if you ask me, I'd say it's because of the SB cast. Kazuya Nakai, Souichirou Hoshi and Toshiyuki Morikawa are well-known in the BL industry; especially Morikawa, considered as the "BL dramas no kamisama". Ok, that was a piece of information you didn't want to know about.

Because of its size, I've uploaded the drama into two files:
Sengoku BASARA 2: Shikoku! Honnouji no Hen, Tracks 1-2 and booklet scans.
Sengoku BASARA 2: Shikoku! Honnouji no Hen, Tracks 3-7.

OMG, thank you very much Scyllua :wub:
you made me even more overjoyed today, despite my slow connection

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Finished listening to it, though i can only catch some phrase, damn television >_>
I'll just do list, not full spoiler.
But still, SPOILER WARNING

1) Masamune (and Kojuuro) & Yukimura attacked
2) Mitsuhide and Nobunaga (and Ichi) were in Honnoji
3) Yukimura & Kojuuro met
4) Masamune & Ichi met
5) Mitsuhide interrupt Yuki & Kojuu
6) Ichi thanked Masamune and 'left'
7) Yuki & Masamune met
8) Nobunaga came
9) Mitsuhide set fire
10) "Zehi Munnashi!"
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the end? Listen to it yourself :rolleyes:

You're welcome.

I haven't liked this drama as much as I've enjoyed all the others in the series, maybe because it sort of felt predictable due to the recurring pattern (Masamune & Yukimura teaming up again, and it's bye-bye for the ocassional villain), and because it features two characters I think are rather uninteresting, Nobunaga (who's the Maou because... he's the Maou) and Mitsuhide (who's insane because... he's insane). Anyway, I suppose it's worth listening to, in spite of everything. Oichi has yet another tragic story in this one...

I've finished reuploading the other dramas in one or two zip files. If anyone is interested in taking them...

CD Drama 1 - Sengoku Basara: Shukumei! Kawanakajima no Tatakai
CD Drama 2 - Sengoku Basara 2: Hyakka Ryouran Odawara No Eki, Tracks 1-3
CD Drama 2 - Sengoku Basara 2: Hyakka Ryouran Odawara No Eki, Tracks 4-6
CD Drama 3 - Sengoku Basara 2: Soukyuu! Anegawa No Tatakai

...And the old files that were already zipped into a single file:

CD Drama 4 - Sengoku Basara 2: Guren! Mikatagahara No Tatakai, ripped into a single file.
Mini CD Drama centering in Yukimura and Sasuke; this came with the Sengoku Basara 2 Visual and Sound Book. Ripped in wma format, sorry.
Mini CD Drama - Cool and the Gang, an audio verison of the novel; it's included in the Sengoku Basara 2 Visual and Sound Book 2.